Mariners Squad 2022/2023

[true believer]

Looks a big boy

we needed an enforcer

 

[shipwreck]

6"3 ?

 

[shipwreck]

Any idea what side he is going to play on? Will Hall / Triantis / Vanuatu dude be fighting for LCB or RCB

 

[Forum Phoenix]

I like him.

Focused on personal growth, good sense of determination and maturity for a young player.

Looking forward to seeing how he goes. Aerial presence is very valuable, hopefully he can form a strong, highly athletic partnership with Hall — which aided by Danny can become disciplined and consistent...

...if so could be a thing of beauty.

 

[turbo]

the Peil interview where he said one of the “KPIs” of his ownership deal was selling $800k worth of players every year.

Seems unlikely on a regular basis. Also won’t happen if we don’t have the right experienced senior players in the team to steady the ship and bring out their best. IMO Kye’s move doesn’t happen without Tongyik and Hall standing up in the last 2 seasons. He would still deserve it but wouldn’t be seen in the same light. I don’t think we’ve struck a great balance so far.

 

[Corsair]

Any idea what side he is going to play on? Will Hall / Triantis / Vanuatu dude be fighting for LCB or RCB

I'd like to see the Vanuatun have a go in the 6 role.

 

[shipwreck]

I'd like to see the Vanuatun have a go in the 6 role.

May very well do that if Nizzy is out for much longer

 

[pjennings]

I don't know anything - but ... I would not be surprised if we see another couple of players down our spine.

 

[marinermick]

I'd like to see the Vanuatun have a go in the 6 role.

He will be lucky to be anywhere near the starting side, let alone taking Niz and Ballard’s position

 

[Tim]

deserve

For the less experienced of us with football transfers, what does that mean? $800k in total salaries sold (ie 4 players at $200k per season) or raising $800k in fees from transfers (with a players salary irrelevant)? If the latter that seems ambitious unless guys like Kye Rowles generate decent transfer fees. Would that include future fees for any players that have already transferred out of the club but for which we receive a further fee if they transfer to different club in the future? Perhaps I’m over-complicating things but would love to have a better understanding of these things (in 25 words or less of course ), cheers

 

[FFC Mariner]

For the less experienced of us with football transfers, what does that mean? $800k in total salaries sold (ie 4 players at $200k per season) or raising $800k in fees from transfers (with a players salary irrelevant)? If the latter that seems ambitious unless guys like Kye Rowles generate decent transfer fees. Would that include future fees for any players that have already transferred out of the club but for which we receive a further fee if they transfer to different club in the future? Perhaps I’m over-complicating things but would love to have a better understanding of these things (in 25 words or less of course ), cheers

That is the revenue raised. The buying club pays a fee.

 

[Ancient Mariner]

I just find it amusing that the majority shareholding owner has given himself KPIs.
Who will enforce any consequences if he misses any of them?

 

[Michael]

Any idea what side he is going to play on? Will Hall / Triantis / Vanuatu dude be fighting for LCB or RCB

We haven’t signed Kaltak as yet and personally I don’t think we should.

 

[Michael]

For the less experienced of us with football transfers, what does that mean? $800k in total salaries sold (ie 4 players at $200k per season) or raising $800k in fees from transfers (with a players salary irrelevant)? If the latter that seems ambitious unless guys like Kye Rowles generate decent transfer fees. Would that include future fees for any players that have already transferred out of the club but for which we receive a further fee if they transfer to different club in the future? Perhaps I’m over-complicating things but would love to have a better understanding of these things (in 25 words or less of course ), cheers

I’d say it’d be a generalised transfer fee intake. Any future fees are a bonus.
for example a few trusted football transfer outlets are saying rowles fee was close to 1mill AUD. I don’t think it was that high but would’ve been close. And Birras fee was estimated around 700k AUD. Always hard to completely know.

I think the $800k a season transfer income KPI is achievable for Rich. But obviously the players need to perform. The 3 year contracts are a strong starting point for any negotiations, but in saying that if a player wants to leave and didn’t play well enough for a fee then the PFA can always come in and f**k the club over without spitting.

And then after all of that the true indicator of how into this club Rich is, will be what he invests back into the club (in any capacity) with these foreseen profits.

 

[Rising Sun]

I just find it amusing that the majority shareholding owner has given himself KPIs.
Who will enforce any consequences if he misses any of them?

The KPIs I have heard about seem to be profitability related (rather than football related like winning trophies). He said on the FNR interview something along the lines that the money he is investing in the club would normally have been directed to the charitable foundation that his missus runs, and the deal he has made with her in order to have access to that money now is that he makes the club profitable and then donates all profits to her foundation.

So in all seriousness, the answer to your question is that it is quite possible that Mrs P will be enforcing the KPIs - if he is hitting them all at the end of the 3 year try-before-you-buy period then he gets to keep his new toy, otherwise he has to walk away.

Of course - and knowing how easy it is to turn a profit from running a small football club <insert sarcasm emoji for avoidance of doubt> - it also gives him the excuse to walk away from a full deal with Mike at the end of 3 years if junior doesn't crack first grade.

 

[Corsair]

We haven’t signed Kaltak as yet and personally I don’t think we should.

DOOM SAYER...say more words of doom! I.e. why?

 

[Michael]

DOOM SAYER...say more words of doom! I.e. why?

I think we can do better than a bloke that’s really only played in a glorified NZ version of NPL.

 

[Corsair]

I think we can do better than a bloke that’s really only played in a glorified NZ version of NPL.

Fair enough. I don't think we'll do better at the moment, chasing NPL players that have already been rejected by the Jets doesn't excite me. Maybe the real answer is we still don't have enough money or are still too mean with it.

 

[Tim]

leave

If we netted close to a tonne for Rowles and $700k for Birras, we are well on the way to meeting an $800k per year average over 3 years (to state the obvious)…

 

[pjennings]

The KPIs I have heard about seem to be profitability related (rather than football related like winning trophies). He said on the FNR interview something along the lines that the money he is investing in the club would normally have been directed to the charitable foundation that his missus runs, and the deal he has made with her in order to have access to that money now is that he makes the club profitable and then donates all profits to her foundation.

So in all seriousness, the answer to your question is that it is quite possible that Mrs P will be enforcing the KPIs - if he is hitting them all at the end of the 3 year try-before-you-buy period then he gets to keep his new toy, otherwise he has to walk away.

Of course - and knowing how easy it is to turn a profit from running a small football club <insert sarcasm emoji for avoidance of doubt> - it also gives him the excuse to walk away from a full deal with Mike at the end of 3 years if junior doesn't crack first grade.

I'm not sure that is what I heard. More along the lines that he will use the Football club to also push her charitable causes. I might have to listen again