Mariners extend footprint out west

[elevated position]

join the board and push the changes.

 

[adz]

I think it's a good initiative, but does Western NSW Mariners sound funny to anyone else?

Many boats out that way?

Might as well be the Sahara Desert Mariners...

 

[elevated position]

you obviously missed the floods last week

 

[Nathan Byrn]

join the board and push the changes.

I was and I did.

 

[adz]

you obviously missed the floods last week

lol fair play

 

[dibo]

I have been pushing this, for some time now. The Mariners will only do it if instructed to by the FFA. The NYL is a burden on them and an extension of the season will only increase this burden. There was a great opportunity missed by th CCF/CCM to establish this. FFA were behind it, FNSW were behind it. The Mariners stated the CCF did not want a team and the CCF hid behind the perception that, "The Mariners are running rep-footbal now'!!However the CCF sent the applications for teams in last year, without a senior mens team. The CCF says you don't need a team because you have an NYL team, the CCF had and still has no idea how to run a respected rep football program on the coast when it's mandate is "Competitions, Competitions,Competitions". They can't even get that right!!

FFA will drive CCM and FNSW to have the NYL side in the NSWPL. Guaranteed. CCF will have to find the cash to fund it, but as a proportion of the existing budget it's not that much more of a stretch, particularly noting that all the games will be in the Sydney basin so travel costs are minimal (compared to schlepping to Adelaide and Perth etc.).

But you appear to contradict yourself - you appear to want CCF to run the NSWPL side while also saying that "CCF had and still has no idea how to run a respected rep football program on the coast".

I have my view, but the floor's open for you - If it stood up as an independent business proposition, CCF wouldn't have had an internal debate over whether to fund senior reps. As you've said, CCF baulked at the >$100k that it costs to run a senior side in the NSWSL.

For NSWPL you can effectively double that, or more (participation fee goes from $10k to $40k or so, and that's just a start).

And given that to be competitive we'd be looking for a higher calibre of players than NSWSL we'd be looking to Sydney for the bulk of the playing stocks too and forking over more in match payments to get a decent side.

It might be a budget of $250k - across CCF's players that's approximately $20 a pop.

Why should a kid playing U12 division 4 for Gosford City pay for that?

 

[Nathan Byrn]

FFA will drive CCM and FNSW to have the NYL side in the NSWPL. Guaranteed. CCF will have to find the cash to fund it, but as a proportion of the existing budget it's not that much more of a stretch, particularly noting that all the games will be in the Sydney basin so travel costs are minimal (compared to schlepping to Adelaide and Perth etc.).

But you appear to contradict yourself - you appear to want CCF to run the NSWPL side while also saying that "CCF had and still has no idea how to run a respected rep football program on the coast".

I have my view, but the floor's open for you - If it stood up as an independent business proposition, CCF wouldn't have had an internal debate over whether to fund senior reps. As you've said, CCF baulked at the >$100k that it costs to run a senior side in the NSWSL.

For NSWPL you can effectively double that, or more (participation fee goes from $10k to $40k or so, and that's just a start).

And given that to be competitive we'd be looking for a higher calibre of players than NSWSL we'd be looking to Sydney for the bulk of the playing stocks too and forking over more in match payments to get a decent side.

It might be a budget of $250k - across CCF's players that's approximately $20 a pop.

Why should a kid playing U12 division 4 for Gosford City pay for that?

Assumptions.
Generalisations.
Inaccuracies.
Trolling.
You seem to be an intelligent guy why the need for all of the above?
Please dont refer to this as "we" this is not Sydney Uni...

 

[Nathan Byrn]

The funding of the team is very complicated as the CCF have not passed on an increase in registration costs in 3 seasons,not even CPI. So when a new chairman comes in they will have to raise the cost of playing before any other increases are considered. The rep program will have to provide the funds needed, the entry fee for PL includes ref costs super league does not. The players will be required to assist with academy coaching and this could subsidise income.

 

[scottmac]

Assumptions.
Generalisations.
Inaccuracies.
Trolling.
You seem to be an intelligent guy why the need for all of the above?
Please dont refer to this as "we" this is not Sydney Uni...

Thats funny, could have said the same about alot of the tripe you served up in another thread.

 

[dibo]

It still doesn't answer my question - why should a 12/4 player pay for it?

 

[Nathan Byrn]

Thats funny, could have said the same about alot of the tripe you served up in another thread.

Alot is not a word.Thanks for your input. That is funny!

 

[Nathan Byrn]

It still doesn't answer my question - why should a 12/4 player pay for it?

Please read my post carefully. You also need to think of football funding from an hollistic perspective. All participants in an association are oart of the same pool. Many associations have a levy to fund rep programs.Kdsa and Blacktown to name two.If participants had the mentality your perscribing.Why should a 5/4 or a 45-c fund the maintenance of Pluim Park, they dont use it! Why should a current 12/4 fund rep football in the current model? Why should tax payers fund projects that they will never have any direct use for? The majority of costs in rep football are funded by the program itself.The $1100 or so dollars the parents pay here on the coast.