Mariner stuff not worthy of a whole thread

[Forum Phoenix]

No. And those that do are trying to broaden their base. We are just whores.

A less great post

We're prize fighters, down on our luck, mouths to feed, forced to slum it and take whatever we can get until we break through again

Stay tuned 2017/18

 

[Wombat]

A less great post

We're prize fighters, down on our luck, mouths to feed, forced to slum it and take whatever we can get until we break through again

Stay tuned 2017/18

Take it up the Hershey for a few dirty dollars. Until get a new Pimp/owner.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Take it up the Hershey for a few dirty dollars. Until get a new Pimp/owner.

Or that

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

"trying to broaden the base" is largely what we're doing - and that's largely because the FFA told us we have to. Getting a fair bit of money from them does help the bottom line, no doubt. whores? What a load of rubbish.

I would agree, if we had marketed ourselves in Geelong and not tried to sell our home games to Brisbane at varying times. We're not whores but apart from Canberra we haven't exactly been great at broadening our base.

 

[Timmah]

I would agree, if we had marketed ourselves in Geelong and not tried to sell our home games to Brisbane at varying times. We're not whores but apart from Canberra we haven't exactly been great at broadening our base.

*cough* NSO *cough*

 

[bikinigirl]

I'm in a quandary about this. While we have 13 or 14 games at home I would prefer that we play all our home at home.

However, consider this. This year I paid $220 for 11 home games and got entry to 2 derby games at Hunter Stadium. If we go to 12 teams and 16 or 17 games I would suggest that my ticket would go to $320 -$340. My position will be that I will always follow the team - especially at home. The question comes though, what is the tipping point for our members and fans. At what stage does it become acceptable/preferable to play each of the teams at home once (11 games) plus all NSW games based games at home. This would mean 11 games plus games against SFC, WSW, NUJ and maybe Wollongong Wolves or Les Murrays Southern Expansion. If the NSW games were spread evenly that would mean a minimum number of games at home of 13 games out of 16 or 17 games and a likely season ticket of $260.

If we get management rights there will be no need to do this except to broaden our base. Ideally, a situation of strength like that would make our travelling decisions based on whether it is worthwhile from both a business and football sense.

My point was the more about the cost involved for a limited base when we go to 12 teams. Our family spent $660 this season and my son can only come if the game corresponds to his weekend off (He pays - not me). At $340 the cost goes to $1020 for the three of us. If you are Sydney or WSW in a city of over 5 million people if somebody drops off because of the cost there are plenty more to churn through. On the Central Coast we don't have that luxury. You burn people here just aren't the people to replace them.

Sure it might work and more people will be prepared to pay for 17 games - but that will only happen when people are turning up for the sparking football - not just the faithful turning up for loyalty at the moment. There is a tipping point.

. a reasoned approach PJ - but for me it comes down to the first paragraph of your first post and the last paragraph of your second post

. affordability is always a concern (particularly if we have an expanded league - which is some way off by the sound of it) but to me the bigger issue is what we have to sell ... and for the last few seasons we haven't had much to sell at home or at a home away from home

. in reality we don't have any proper metrics to map any trends. yes our membership numbers are up (I agree that Dan has been our marquee man this season) ... but the real comparison has to be what i would term 'full season equivalents'

. membership numbers are often used for whatever argument is trying to made at the time but it shits me how people continue to say things such as 'CCM have 6k members but are only getting 5k to a game' ... even the podcast boys picked up on that recently. yet i would suggest that by now most members have already used up their 'entitlement' to matches as I reckon 3 and 6 game memberships outweigh 'full season' memberships nowadays ... of course I don't have any numbers to back this claim because they aren't published

. Shaun's recent talk of 120 Canberra members doesn't mean a lot to me either because 'Canberra members' could also be Coasties that bought a Canberra membership in addition to their regular membership

. the team and it's performances over the last few season just haven't been enough to grow our fanbase ... on the Coast or elsewhere. 'whoring' (to steal Wombat's phrase) appears to me as the Mariners looking for a cure (a quick fix, a bandaid, survival - whatever you want to call it) without understanding the problem

 

[pjennings]

.
. affordability is always a concern (particularly if we have an expanded league - which is some way off by the sound of it)

See - that is where I disagree. The way the Fox deal is structured there is an extra $5.6 million each year from year 2 is we expand to 12 teams and a further $7.5 million in years 5 and 6 if certain metrics are met. At that stage it seems that Fox and the FFA decide whether to expand further. The FFA is being led by the nose by the TV deals. O'Rourke is rushing to do the FTA deal because if it not complete within a certain time limit (fast approaching) then Fox can buy back the FTA rights for $4million and on-sell it themselves (presumably to 10 to allow cross-selling).

That equates to 12 teams in 2018/2019 - 2021/2022 with presumably 33 home and away games and possible further expansion in the 2022/2023 season. At that time I would hope we go to 16 teams and a true home and away and drop back to 30 home games.

 

[bikinigirl]

See - that is where I disagree. The way the Fox deal is structured there is an extra $5.6 million each year from year 2 is we expand to 12 teams ... snipped

. fair enough and I remember this being part of the new deal with fox - my comment was based on my recollection that the FFA was putting the expansion plans on hold ... again

. i thought this was the year 2 expansion and assumed the fox deal would therefore remain unchanged in year 2. of course I may have this all wrong but I don't think the FFA deliberately avoid transparency to fend off criticism (for example how much of the headline TV deal is for 'works in kind'?)

 

[TedShot]

I will just leave this here....

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/f...y/news-story/9bab4afd7c0a01e431a14f52ef4f58c7

 

[Big Al]

The best bit was when he swore at someone after it like it was someone else's fault.

If he wasn't a dick you'd think he had money on the overs for goals

 

[Timmah]

Saw a tweet that there's interest in him returning to us. Massive wtf

 

[FFC Mariner]

No Monty makes that easier.

 

[Wombat]

Saw a tweet that there's interest in him returning to us. Massive wtf

Owns the gym at Erina Fair I believe.

 

[Ancient Mariner]

Just the thought makes me feel ill.

 

[FFC Mariner]

He's coming home and bringing his off contract dog mates with him.

Lol

 

[yellowcake]

Happy 4th anniversary of the wondrous night of the yellow and navy toilet seat
(the last championship for a NSW-based club...)

 

[Holy]

Fabio - Respect. Thanks for the memories, always a Mariner, I wish you well

 

[BaysideMariner]

That is class Fabio

 

[BrisRecky]

Sure that was a grouse thing Fabio did.. But is it just me or are ppl carrying on since he announced his departure, like he won mom every week since he signed for us... El Flecha was inconsistent at best folks..just saying

 

[sydmariner]

we (ccm) won the fair play award at the a-league awards tonight