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Pirate Pete

Well-Known Member
From the Sydney Morning Herald.

Central Coast Mariners

Coach Paul Okon injected life, discipline and purpose into a young Mariners squad but a team built with considerably less funds than any other club looks every part the minnow. Their late stumble on New Year's Eve against Melbourne City put their inexperience on display and it's hard to see the Mariners gathering many more points.

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Still rebuilding: The Mariners look every part the minnow. Photo: Getty Images

Mid-season finish: 9th

Report Card: C

Predicted finish: 10th
 

Tevor

Well-Known Member
From the Sydney Morning Herald.

Central Coast Mariners

Coach Paul Okon injected life, discipline and purpose into a young Mariners squad but a team built with considerably less funds than any other club looks every part the minnow. Their late stumble on New Year's Eve against Melbourne City put their inexperience on display and it's hard to see the Mariners gathering many more points.

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Still rebuilding: The Mariners look every part the minnow. Photo: Getty Images

Mid-season finish: 9th

Report Card: C

Predicted finish: 10th
I read all the reports on the teams and it was pretty typical and rubbish. Personally don't see AU finishing 8th. Just another CCM bash.
 

Timmah

Well-Known Member
Dom Bossi... unsurprising. Ranked Adelaide lower, said they'll face further struggles - but they'd rise above us?

It could easily happen but his logic and reasoning is absolutely awful. Either way I believe we have a few more wins in us this season.
 

dibo

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Given the thinness of the squad and the tight budget, there's not really a lot to tell anybody that we're not already doing as well as we can, whilst Adelaide have a better squad and a coach who proved himself last year.

That's not to say that we're definitely going to finish bottom, it's just that we're going to have to prove some people wrong to do better than that.

I'd have thought that's exactly where we want to be. No one rates us, we don't care.
 

Big Al

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Given the thinness of the squad and the tight budget, there's not really a lot to tell anybody that we're not already doing as well as we can, whilst Adelaide have a better squad and a coach who proved himself last year.

That's not to say that we're definitely going to finish bottom, it's just that we're going to have to prove some people wrong to do better than that.

I'd have thought that's exactly where we want to be. No one rates us, we don't care.
If we finish bottom it won't be by much unlike last year. We could easily just miss the playoffs and still come last. It's congested at the bottom
 

Forum Phoenix

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Screw Bossi. Sydney stooge. We know the inexperience costs us, so tenth is possible with continual errors, but we're clearly improving and with a few less, so is sixth spot. We're only 4 points from 5th. And we still have the scum and AU to play twice. It's those results that will largely determine who will spoon and if we beat glory and Wellington, likely whether we can sneak into the sixth.

We're currently playing better football than nix, scum, glory and AU imo and just took a point that should have been 3 from the 4th placed team.

Not taking the piss with this - but I think we're the best ninth places team I may have seen in the HAL. We play some very decent periods even against the top sides. If we get a bit of reinforcement at CB, a ten, and keep Monty and Tav on the park, we may come home with a wet sail yet.

Oh and keep roux on the park and get Galloway back on the left.
 

Gratis

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In defence of the Central Coast Mariners
Have you noticed the following comment come up in A-League expansion discussions: “we don’t want another Central Coast Mariners.”

It’s as though any similarity to the Mariners will sink an expansion bid faster than a stone cast into Tuggerah Lake.

Surely the ultimate worth of a club is how it performs on the field. So it might be worth re-capping what the Mariners have achieved.

Central Coast have won the premiership twice and been runners up twice. They have also won one A-League grand final (Championship) and have been runner up three times.

Two of their grand final losses to Brisbane Roar have been among the most exciting domestic club games ever played in Australia.

The Mariners have represented Australia in the Asian Champions League and have performed creditably. All this in just eleven years.

Their last grand final appearance was in 2013, so the current so-called slump is all of three and a bit years – barely a blip on the horizon for most sporting teams in any part of the world. Any expansion club would kill for results like these.

But surely the Mariners have contributed nothing to Australian football in terms of personnel.

Wrong.

Take Mile Jedinak for starters. Australian captain and a regular in the Championship with Aston Villa. Then there is Matt Ryan, the current Socceroo goalkeeper plying his trade in Spain.

Then of course there is Tom Rogic, the Socceroos and Celtic midfielder, and one of the most skilled Australian footballers since the golden generation.

Three current Socceroos (and I may have forgotten others) is not bad in anyone’s language.

On the local scene, Sydney FC have benefited from ex-Central Coast players, in particular the pacy Bernie Ibini and the blond firebrand Matt Simon.

The Mariners have even contributed on the coaching front with one of Australia’s premier coaches, Graham Arnold, being a Central Coast old boy.

And what about expanding the game to new audiences? The Mariners are the only existing Australian club who could be regarded as evangelists for the code.

All the other clubs have some football history and support to draw on. But the Mariners are a football outpost in a rugby league stronghold. And they have made a difference.

I spend a lot of time in the area. Locals know about Australian football because of the Mariners. There is a love for the team that doesn’t always come out in the crowd numbers.

The only A-League grand final I saw live was Mariners versus the Jets in 2008. There was great support that day for both clubs. The Mariners faithful at the northern end of Allianz Stadium were making a hell of a racket.

When the Mariners beat the Wanderers in the 2013 grand final there were stirring celebrations in the local area.

Adding to the club’s standing in the community is its Centre of Excellence and a recent proposal to enter a team into the W-League for season 2017-18.

Attendances are another reason people will disparage the Mariners. Average crowds of around 6,000 just don’t cut it according to some. But as a proportion of the area’s population of 300,000 this is not such a bad figure.

At a ratio of one-in-50 of spectators to population this is equivalent to a 20,000 crowd in a city of one million. And not too many A-League teams average that.

And really, how many of the potential expansion clubs will draw a home crowd of more than 6,000?

Positioned as it is, halfway between Sydney and Newcastle, Central Coast stadium provides for reasonable access for away fans of the NSW clubs. And what a great boutique stadium it is.

It would be the envy of any expansion club. If only the TV cameras could be positioned on the opposite side of the ground to show the faithful in the Western stand!

Central Coast Mariners are a founding club of the A-League. History matters. With each passing year, the Mariners’ history and tradition grows a little more. Given enough time they will feature in stories of the good old days.

None of the proposed bids for expansion teams are perfect. There are no Western Sydney Wanderers among them. Any potential expansion club could do worse than emulate the Central Coast Mariners.
http://www.theroar.com.au/2017/01/07/defence-central-coast-mariners/
 

Forum Phoenix

Well-Known Member
Hoo- bloody-ray. At last. Three cheers for the ROAR.

Great article.

Could go further though with our list of contributions. It outstrips every other HAL club at national level. And the young player pathway is enormously important for Aus football. If you care about the future of Australian football, we need more clubs like the Mariners - not less.

But what is he talking about re attendances? Our average is way higher than 6K isn't it?? Thought we'd be in the high 8's or 9's at least? If I'm right - Dibo you know this stuff like the back of your hand? This needs to be amended and reprinted. GRA you keen to write to them?
 

VicMariner

Well-Known Member
In defence of the Central Coast Mariners
Have you noticed the following comment come up in A-League expansion discussions: “we don’t want another Central Coast Mariners.”

It’s as though any similarity to the Mariners will sink an expansion bid faster than a stone cast into Tuggerah Lake.

Surely the ultimate worth of a club is how it performs on the field. So it might be worth re-capping what the Mariners have achieved.

Central Coast have won the premiership twice and been runners up twice. They have also won one A-League grand final (Championship) and have been runner up three times.

Two of their grand final losses to Brisbane Roar have been among the most exciting domestic club games ever played in Australia.

The Mariners have represented Australia in the Asian Champions League and have performed creditably. All this in just eleven years.

Their last grand final appearance was in 2013, so the current so-called slump is all of three and a bit years – barely a blip on the horizon for most sporting teams in any part of the world. Any expansion club would kill for results like these.

But surely the Mariners have contributed nothing to Australian football in terms of personnel.

Wrong.

Take Mile Jedinak for starters. Australian captain and a regular in the Championship with Aston Villa. Then there is Matt Ryan, the current Socceroo goalkeeper plying his trade in Spain.

Then of course there is Tom Rogic, the Socceroos and Celtic midfielder, and one of the most skilled Australian footballers since the golden generation.

Three current Socceroos (and I may have forgotten others) is not bad in anyone’s language.

On the local scene, Sydney FC have benefited from ex-Central Coast players, in particular the pacy Bernie Ibini and the blond firebrand Matt Simon.

The Mariners have even contributed on the coaching front with one of Australia’s premier coaches, Graham Arnold, being a Central Coast old boy.

And what about expanding the game to new audiences? The Mariners are the only existing Australian club who could be regarded as evangelists for the code.

All the other clubs have some football history and support to draw on. But the Mariners are a football outpost in a rugby league stronghold. And they have made a difference.

I spend a lot of time in the area. Locals know about Australian football because of the Mariners. There is a love for the team that doesn’t always come out in the crowd numbers.

The only A-League grand final I saw live was Mariners versus the Jets in 2008. There was great support that day for both clubs. The Mariners faithful at the northern end of Allianz Stadium were making a hell of a racket.

When the Mariners beat the Wanderers in the 2013 grand final there were stirring celebrations in the local area.

Adding to the club’s standing in the community is its Centre of Excellence and a recent proposal to enter a team into the W-League for season 2017-18.

Attendances are another reason people will disparage the Mariners. Average crowds of around 6,000 just don’t cut it according to some. But as a proportion of the area’s population of 300,000 this is not such a bad figure.

At a ratio of one-in-50 of spectators to population this is equivalent to a 20,000 crowd in a city of one million. And not too many A-League teams average that.

And really, how many of the potential expansion clubs will draw a home crowd of more than 6,000?

Positioned as it is, halfway between Sydney and Newcastle, Central Coast stadium provides for reasonable access for away fans of the NSW clubs. And what a great boutique stadium it is.

It would be the envy of any expansion club. If only the TV cameras could be positioned on the opposite side of the ground to show the faithful in the Western stand!

Central Coast Mariners are a founding club of the A-League. History matters. With each passing year, the Mariners’ history and tradition grows a little more. Given enough time they will feature in stories of the good old days.

None of the proposed bids for expansion teams are perfect. There are no Western Sydney Wanderers among them. Any potential expansion club could do worse than emulate the Central Coast Mariners.
http://www.theroar.com.au/2017/01/07/defence-central-coast-mariners/
Yeah!! Damn right!!
#ProudToBeAMariner
 

Forum Phoenix

Well-Known Member
Central Coast Mariners TOTAL: 1,428,699 AVERAGE 9,338
Better than either Nix or Glory and only 400 people off the amazing MELBOURNE CITY and a thousand off the jets who have twice our population.

That's a ratio of a little over 1.5 in 50. Not 1 in 50. Which translates to a crowd of 30,000 in a city of 1 million. No one has that. It's 7 thousand more than Victory - who has the best crowd average in the league. Yet we are derided, not given respect for what should be viewed as a terrific achievement.

If we attracted crowds on par with even MV's ratio, it's doubtful we'd even still exist. Everyone else's level of market penetration, we'd have gone under.

I put messages on Roar requesting an amendment, we're already getting criticism for 6k being unviable. Real shame when we're closer to 10k. And a pity such a good and well intentioned post is spreading unintended misinformation.
 
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Big Al

Well-Known Member
We not challenging Roy Red Card


CENTRAL Coast Mariners face an anxious wait to learn whether striker Roy O’Donovan will be hit with a significant ban for his sending off against Melbourne City last Thursday night.

The Mariners had already decided on Friday not to contest the red card O’Donovan was shown for pushing Michael Jakobsen in the face under the A-League’s “obvious error” rules, fearing that it might actually earn him an extra week’s ban for a so-called “frivolous appeal”.

Now O’Donovan must wait for the A-League’s match review panel to decide on Monday whether the challenge on Jakobsen is deemed off or on the ball. The latter would only earn him a one-week ban, but a challenge off the ball that might endanger an opponent is seen as more serious.

After the Irishman served an eight-match ban last season for headbutting Wellington defender Manny Muscat, his club fear that history might count against him.

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Roy O'Donovan reacts to Tim Cahill after he was sent off.Source: Getty Images
It had been assumed that the Mariners would follow Melbourne Victory in having Besart Berisha’s similar red card expunged a week before, but the “obvious error” rules dictate a challenge or tackle must not have been worthy of even a yellow card to qualify.

After Central Coast lost to City, coach Paul Okon conceded O’Donovan’s challenge was worth a yellow card, though he was bitterly critical of referee Daniel Elder for taking the advice of his linesman in deciding to send the striker off. Victory’s challenge to Berisha’s red card centred on footage said to show he had not even made contact with Brisbane defender Luke Devere.

Mariners CEO Shaun Mielekamp said he hoped the MRP would treat the O’Donovan case “sensibly. We’ll leave it to them to deal with it in an appropriate manner. While we would have liked to mount an appeal, the reality is you have to prove that not even a yellow card would have been issued.”

http://www.foxsports.com.au/footbal...n/news-story/b30d8a67910f87c7f1f8ad3f247bda40
 

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