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Letter from a fan..

helen311

New Member
I am posting this letter that my mum has written and sent to the Central Coast Mariners to put across the words and thoughts that so many of us supporters are thinking. I completely agree with everything and thought this letter needed to be put on the marinators site to share. Thanks!
Helen

'I am writing to let you know what the supporters feel, as they turn up,
me included to home matches and some of the away matches.
Players:, John Aloisi let go, he was a drawcard and great for the team
and the game of football, to have a Socceroo in our midst. ( I saw John
score the goal which got us to Germany for the Word Cup, and I was at the
World Cup 2006)
Andre Gumprect, how the crowd liked to watch him, how he moved up and
down the field and inspired everyone, how everyone cheered when he was on
he field, McKinna did not like him, so he went.
Sasho Petrovski how good was he, up front with Aloisi or Symonds, we
would not renew his contract.
Mrdja, how many years has he not played, McKinna likes him. How many
times does he miss the ball,even in front of an open goal!
Matty Symonds is brillian but left to carry the strikeforce and seems
to be burnt out, there is no senior play for him to be playing off
Other players change, how do we even know who is going to be in the
team from one week to the next.
There is no consistency, changing players everyweek.
The ground: 5 away matches in a row, then 'home' matches in
Canberra, only 5 hours to get to the game!
Then a run of home matches leading up to Christmas, and the supporters
are expected to drop everything and turn up.
The players seem to have no leadership or organsation at the club (not
on the field, Alex is terrific).
As with the attendances, the interest is waning fast, rather than the
highlight of the week, it is if I have nothing better to do I my go to
the game, or easier to just watch on TV.
Remember last year when the supporters, walked out of the last home
game, it was not worth watching.
Supporters: have been relegated to the worst area to watch the game
from, the Marinators were dominant behind the goals, so now moved to an
obscure spot with the sun in our eyes, to make it harder to see.
Are the club trying to kill off the game and the Mariners, this is
World Cup year and the club is killing our team.
Next year will we have a team.'
Lynda
 

Jimmy

Well-Known Member
I'm sick of people thinking that ccmfc moved the marinators. Just more evidence of people talking about stuff they know nothing about.
 

FFC Mariner

Well-Known Member
Whilst raising some valid points, the one about the Marinators (remember them?) is crap.

the main thrust of this letter is that the overall direction and running of the club is very poor and many of the gains made in seasons 1-3 have been thrown away
 

helen311

New Member
Yeah, fair play! Thanks for the comments.
Why the move then Jimmy?? It seems theres a lot less of the marintors after the move, so why do it? Who moved the oppositions fans up the far end too? Wheres the fun in that?
 

Marquee

Well-Known Member
I must admit I liked it when the away section was to the right of Bay 16. It was good for the atmosphere. Damn conservative FFA!
 

bjw

bjw
Part_Timer said:
Forza Matty Symonds

+1

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serious14

Well-Known Member
Interesting to get a non active supporter's (general public, if you will) view - valid points raised as well.

Can you let us know if you get a response at all??
 

Jimmy

Well-Known Member
helen311 said:
Yeah, fair play! Thanks for the comments.
Why the move then Jimmy?? It seems theres a lot less of the marintors after the move, so why do it? Who moved the oppositions fans up the far end too? Wheres the fun in that?

Just look back a little bit and..

http://marinators.net/forum/index.php?topic=2430.0

The move isn't the (only) reason for the small numbers of the marinators.

This was mentioned in a local paper recently, someone wrote in and blamed the club.
 

Nik Mrdjas Disco Bikkie

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helen311 said:
John Aloi$i let go, he was a drawcard and great for the team
and the game of football, to have a Socceroo in our midst. ( I saw John
score the goal which got us to Germany for the Word Cup, and I was at the
World Cup 2006)

To be fair that weasel chose to go. We even offered him more money than Sydney, he's just a prick. I agree about Andre though.
 

Part_Timer

Well-Known Member
actually he asked what we could offer and went straight to sydney with that price they beat it by 100k and he signed (APP)
 

goingtoadisco

Well-Known Member
Gday Lynda. Im sorry but you obviously have no idea how a football club is run.

How is your job/Business going ? care to throw a couple of million dollars at the club ? well if thats a yes please buy Aloisi or similar player back of Sydney ! Angry Letters get thrown in a bin. Cheques do not.

Sasho ? im pretty sure Mrdja has scored as many goals as he has since he left our club. Correct me if im wrong.

Andre while a great player was old. End of story. 

Agree with all comments about waning interest ect. However what goes up must come down...... then hopefully back up again !
 

Forum Phoenix

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goingtoadisco said:
Sasho ? im pretty sure Mrdja has scored as many goals as he has since he left our club. Correct me if im wrong.

No. Mrdja has 6.  Sasho 2.

He was offered a year deal Lynda. I think letting him go when he refused our one year deal - asking for a two year deal instead  - at his age - was the right decision.  And his season with NCJ has certainly borne this belief out. He's only score once more than Wilko this season.

Aloisi has been covered by previous posts.

Gumps.
Everyone loved Gumps Lynda. But age catches all players.
Those who think this is bullshit, should ask why Andre's subsequent trials with NCJ resulted in no contract.

Players in and out week after week...
It can be damaging, I think your mothers right... but if your team isn't performing you have to try to do something you can't just ignore it. Unfortunately we just didn't have the depth of talent for it to make any noticable difference.

Canberra games clearly sucked. I agree.
The answer most think is likely, is that we were very short on coin and it was done in the interests of survival... but I think they would have received a better outcome if they been open about it I think. I'd be interested if they give you any clarity on this issue beside the pitch repair one they have already issued. Losing home games for the scheduling of pitch repairs when you have such a long off season with an empty stadium is just not good enough I think.

Scheduling... again, it sucked, and I agree.
But you should send that part of your mums letter to the FFA.

As to attendances...

Well the simple truth is we have been spoilt.
Our run of success was unexpected by all. And everyone loved a winner.
But unfortunately everyone can't make the finals every year, (though FFA are having a fair crack at it ;)) Teams will have good and bad seasons... And it is my humble opinion, that it is when times are tough that you need to most support someone.

But I'm often in the minority on this issue... As I feel one is more about the consumption of a product such as buying and eating your favourite chocolate bar...

Whereas in my experience, supporting football teams is unfortunately as much about swallowing the turds you will inevitably get served up over the years and yet still keeping the faith.

As to your Mothers letter.
In think its wonderful that she cares enough to take the initiative and make the effort to do so. However, as I hope my post and some others might help illustrate, I think the problem with looking at things and forming opinions as to what things are no good is great, as a starting place, but then its wise to seek further evidence before deciding that what you believe must be the gospel truth and acting on it accordingly.

For what its worth, I think your mums letter illustrates what I think is probably the clubs biggest mistake in this slump we are in, and that is they have not been forthcoming with information in many of these regards that may have helped. They clearly need to put more faith and information into the hands of their supporters imo if they don't want people like yourself and your mother becoming so disenchanted and losing your support.
 

helen311

New Member
Thanks for the comments guys! i'll take the good with the bad!
First of all...its my mums letter (lynda), im helen. And no, no cheques to hand out im afraid.

Serious 14 - By Active member you mean going to every mariners game?? I will let you know if we hear back.

FFC Mariner - "been to any games lately" um, yes if you include just about every home game, sydney, newcastle, canberra and the last smashing at North Qld?? Yeah, we've probably been to more games than you. You go much?

Goingtoadisco - So, noone should have their opinion?? Just dont even mention it, just assume whatever you write will get chucked? And the "old thing" is a bunch of crap! Gumps was the one Mariner hands down who promoted the team more than anyone! He gave 100% every game, more than the younger ones. But im no coach. Its was just sad to see him go! As for Sasho he was a consistent player maker at least, no matter who has scored more goals.

Forum Phoenix - Thanks for the reply! Good points! Im not saying either of our words are gospel. People do have opinions, no matter whose right or wrong. Its not like mum got so fired up on a heap of dribble clueless people were saying about the team and just blurted it out. This comes from matches of talking to people while watching the game. This has taken a couple of years its not like my mum has just noticed sasho missing, or suddenly the marinators have been moved. The marinators word is not gospel either.

We have however stayed loyal fans, And i think it takes a loyal, passionate fan to write in and give their opinion on their team, rather than dog them and just not turn up to games as alot would do cause were not winning, then have management wondering why theres not as many people?

I think sitting behind goals, amongst all sorts of fans, you get to hear the perspective of what a larger group of people are thinking, rather than being surrounded by a smaller group of people who will all agree with each other.

Thanks for the feedback guys!
Helen :)
 

bjw

bjw
do you support the premier league and if so what club do you support?? (just wondering..)
 

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