LAWRIE IN!!!

[Forum Phoenix]

Yeah thats got much more the ring of truth about it to me...

 

[neverwozza]

Yes and no slight on how we played because we created heaps of genuine chances but I still think Simons "pass" was just a very poor touch.

I have been one of the fans that has been frustrated by our first few rounds although the thought of getting rid of a coach that has been as successful as Lawrie is just plain ridiculous. His starting of Kwas, Elrich and Nik and minimal use of the bench at times gave me heartburn but he seems to have found the winning formula (understatement).

 

[elevated position]

just put on some rose coloured glass's for the week and enjoy the win.

 

[Jesus]

I thought we completely outplayed Sydney and they were lucky to get a point.

on 2nd thought- your right...i stand correct


should read
played good but crap result (opposite to melbourne)

As always it sucks to eb the coach but he has to find balance between being able to watch...and win
i think we all prefer melbourne win (gulp...even me) to sydney result etc.

What irked me for sydney game...he used only 1 sub! Shocking! Especially when you have Travis on the bench! What the?
That's inexcusable IMHO

Kwas scores the penalty or dmac finishes his shot and why oh why would Lawrie have needed to make another sub with a 1 or 2 nil win?

If that is your master class kareem work harder

 

[Kareem]

I thought we completely outplayed Sydney and they were lucky to get a point.

on 2nd thought- your right...i stand correct


should read
played good but crap result (opposite to melbourne)

As always it sucks to eb the coach but he has to find balance between being able to watch...and win
i think we all prefer melbourne win (gulp...even me) to sydney result etc.

What irked me for sydney game...he used only 1 sub! Shocking! Especially when you have Travis on the bench! What the?
That's inexcusable IMHO

Kwas scores the penalty or dmac finishes his shot and why oh why would Lawrie have needed to make another sub with a 1 or 2 nil win?

If that is your master class kareem work harder

im sorry but that really, really frustrates me.
Fact: We didnt score those 2 chances...a good coach should by all means try something new...do something, anything to bring life into game!
You don't think travis would have had an impact?

 

[pommypete]

But hey nice to get someone looking at our games in a positive and in depth manner.
Who knows... we may even get a mention of Fox sports FC this week!?
:


A mention on Fox Sports FC, that will be a 1st

 

[Bear]

[move]KAREEM FOR CCMFC MANAGER[/move]

cos he know better than Lawrie imo
















:

 

[Jesus]

I thought we completely outplayed Sydney and they were lucky to get a point.

on 2nd thought- your right...i stand correct


should read
played good but crap result (opposite to melbourne)

As always it sucks to eb the coach but he has to find balance between being able to watch...and win
i think we all prefer melbourne win (gulp...even me) to sydney result etc.

What irked me for sydney game...he used only 1 sub! Shocking! Especially when you have Travis on the bench! What the?
That's inexcusable IMHO

Kwas scores the penalty or dmac finishes his shot and why oh why would Lawrie have needed to make another sub with a 1 or 2 nil win?

If that is your master class kareem work harder

im sorry but that really, really frustrates me.
Fact: We didnt score those 2 chances...a good coach should by all means try something new...do something, anything to bring life into game!
You don't think travis would have had an impact?

Did you look at that game and not think we had come to life in the last 20mins? If you didnt you were not watching the same game as I

 

[Kareem]

our last 20 mins wasnt good enough
last 5-10 was allright...but when u have travis on the bench...
Obviously lawrie was content with a point...but its a shame as we should have got more!

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Kareem, Kareem, Kareem... why are you always so fast off the blocks and then absolute in all of your opinions? Does not make you objective, rational, reasonable... or subsequently likable at times...

You either haven't understood, or considered the whole dynamic of this game...

Sydney were shading us in the first half... But the sheets are still clean... and its pretty much neck and neck... Lawrie gives team talk... they go back onto park... Mariners respond and begin to now start shading Bling... you hit the 60 mark... its nil all... but we've now begun to look the more likely...

Do you now throw on an unproven sub to try to win an incredibly tight game just when your starting to look like you'll get the result your after?

Have you ever coached a game when your team is going neck and neck?
Not an easy time to make a sub... Even harder when your now getting you nose in front as you don't want to disturb/break the rhythm... EVEN HARDER... when you don't truly know the players ability (and nor does the team for that matter) inside and out yet.

In such situations, most coaches around the world adopt the adage... if it aint broke... don't fix it. And rightly so.

Yes if travis was now on the bench... after his recent perfromances, that decision becomes easier, but hindsight, wonderful a tool as it maybe on forums, is not one thats at a coaches disposal.

Even so... once a team is finding rhythm even making a known quality sub may still cause a vital loss of momentum that could cost the game.

Impetuous decisions can win games, but they just as easily lose them.
Jesus's point is that we should have actually won that game as it stood. A pretty damn important point... Yet you'll still just back you opinion and condemn it all outright just because Lawrie didn't make a sub that may as easily have lost us the game as won it... right when we are looking like winning it without a sub...

Your arguments Kareem often have the look of - form an opinion first, then throw any supporting facts you can find at it afterwards... As opposed to considering as many or "ALL" of the facts objectively first... and then looking to form your opinion after. Even then kareem, it's still healthy to try playing devils advocate with yourself even after you've formed your argument. And then be open to change...

You may not be in such constant opposition to people...


(But it does make for funny Bear posts ;D)

 

[Alicia]

huh?
1 game and he wins you over?
I want a bit of consistency before I get ahead of myselves

7 games

Crap= Brisbane, Sydney, Adelaide

Ugly- but good result = Melbourne, perth

Meh= Jets

Good entertaining victory= Gold Coast

3rd place sure...but I dont like this fortnight syndrome we seem to have!

There is more than one of you Kareem?  Myselves???

 

[Kareem]

Have you ever coached a game when your team is going neck and neck?
Not an easy time to make a sub... Even harder when your now getting you nose in front as you don't want to disturb/break the rhythm... EVEN HARDER... when you don't truly know the players ability (and nor does the team for that matter) inside and out yet.

In such situations, most coaches around the world adopt the adage... if it aint broke... don't fix it. And rightly so.

Yes if travis was now on the bench... after his recent perfromances, that decision becomes easier, but hindsight, wonderful a tool as it maybe on forums, is not one thats at a coaches disposal.

1. Is it a retorical question because
a) I have in my amature coaching career...but that's unlimited subs- so different ball game...+ Fifa09 doesnt count (unless your this man, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/coventry_warwickshire/5107924.stm)
So I havent had the pressure of coaching in a 0-0 draw professionally.
b) In my amature coaching career- I refuse to play for a draw except for exceptional circumstances. I'll go for a win- why not? If I can't score...I WILL CHANGE something- this included bringing up my GK- who was had a good strike on him (but that was when losing...different to our brisbane approach?)
c) Why did he bring on Mrdja? Kind of opposes your logic? He clearly didnt fit in with team harmony...Travis would have been more suitable in that sense...even if he is a midfielder- still would rather play him up front

2. I just keep shaking my head here. We didn't score...in my books that equates to it is broken!
But you'll argue 2 missed chances negates that...not if it doesnt end up in the back of the net!

3. 10 mins against Melbourne...anyone with any decent knowledge of football would be able to see the impact Travis had! I am not jumping on the Travis bandwagon in last 2 weeks.
I got one of the first seats 5 weeks ago


But shoosh- Kareem bashing time
Getting old  now though!

 

[Kareem]

huh?
1 game and he wins you over?
I want a bit of consistency before I get ahead of myselves

7 games

Crap= Brisbane, Sydney, Adelaide

Ugly- but good result = Melbourne, perth

Meh= Jets

Good entertaining victory= Gold Coast

3rd place sure...but I dont like this fortnight syndrome we seem to have!

There is more than one of you Kareem?  Myselves???

i noticed it this morning...a bit slow
And I am just a bit too lazy to change it.
Although I am suprised that Jesus/Phoenix didnt pounce on it...
I think I was tossing up between ourselves + myself

Gasp...a typo- on the internet...on the mariners forum of all places! Never before seen

Oh wait- it's Kareem...all makes sense now

would rather make a typo than be a blabbing idiot professing my love for McKinna after 1 good excellent game. I prefer to stick true to my convictions...i'll see a couple of you Lawrie lovers in the Out forum in a couple of weeks

 

[Forum Phoenix]

If your sticking true to your convictions...
Would you kindly mind getting the f**k off the Lawrie In thread?

Travis bandwagons? McKinna puts on a striker but is clearly playing for a draw? Blabbing idiots professing love for their successful inaugural coach?

Your arguments are so poor, I feel like a fool having already come this far and putting this much effort into you.

Your not on the bandwagon Kareem...
your something it ran over and got stuck to the wheel.

But Im done trying to pull the nail that is Kareem out. I'm not wasting any more time on you till you grow up.

 

[priorpeter]

If your sticking true to your convictions...
Would you kindly mind getting the f**k off the Lawrie In thread?

Travis bandwagons? McKinna puts on a striker but is clearly playing for a draw? Blabbing idiots professing love for their successful inaugural coach?

Your arguments are so poor, I feel like a fool having already come this far and putting this much effort into you.

Your not on the bandwagon Kareem...
your something it ran over and got stuck to the wheel.

But Im done trying to pull the nail that is Kareem out. I'm not wasting any more time on you till you grow up.

Forum Phoenix for Mariners Manager.

 

[Jesus]

Have you ever coached a game when your team is going neck and neck?
Not an easy time to make a sub... Even harder when your now getting you nose in front as you don't want to disturb/break the rhythm... EVEN HARDER... when you don't truly know the players ability (and nor does the team for that matter) inside and out yet.

In such situations, most coaches around the world adopt the adage... if it aint broke... don't fix it. And rightly so.

Yes if travis was now on the bench... after his recent perfromances, that decision becomes easier, but hindsight, wonderful a tool as it maybe on forums, is not one thats at a coaches disposal.

1. Is it a retorical question because
a) I have in my amature coaching career...but that's unlimited subs- so different ball game...+ Fifa09 doesnt count (unless your this man, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/coventry_warwickshire/5107924.stm)
So I havent had the pressure of coaching in a 0-0 draw professionally.
b) In my amature coaching career- I refuse to play for a draw except for exceptional circumstances. I'll go for a win- why not? If I can't score...I WILL CHANGE something- this included bringing up my GK- who was had a good strike on him (but that was when losing...different to our brisbane approach?)
c) Why did he bring on Mrdja? Kind of opposes your logic? He clearly didnt fit in with team harmony...Travis would have been more suitable in that sense...even if he is a midfielder- still would rather play him up front

2. I just keep shaking my head here. We didn't score...in my books that equates to it is broken!
But you'll argue 2 missed chances negates that...not if it doesnt end up in the back of the net!

3. 10 mins against Melbourne...anyone with any decent knowledge of football would be able to see the impact Travis had! I am not jumping on the Travis bandwagon in last 2 weeks.
I got one of the first seats 5 weeks ago


But shoosh- Kareem bashing time
Getting old  now though!

Rewatch the game, and tell me that with the way we played changing from defensive to half time, to pretty much all out attack in the last 30mins, and explain how this accounts for playing for a draw?

Since I have no doubt you would have thrown caceras on ahead of a not fully fit travis at the time, and caceras had a greater chance of losing us the game by turning over the ball constantly, i am going to go with lawrie's "all out attack only didnt win because of missed penalty/dmac missing sitter/dmac hitting the post"

It is not like we played the same. Lawrie changed things, and he did exactly what you wanted, played more attacking for the win.

You would have made a glorious sub with a player you had not seen with the advantage of 3 weeks hindsight?

Comparing a fully fit travis with match time to one who had hardly played?

You no doubt would have put him on the right wing instead of DMac since you were convinced with his ability out wide and that he had the legs?

Or would you have taken off pedj, who was having the game of his life? Hutch who was outstanding?

Weemac?

What sub would you have made?

And why do you think it would have been better except for your own belief in your own ability?

Im sure many on this forum, like myself, have coaching qualifications, and have differences of opinions to lawrie on occasions. (Many)

But you have to be accurate. You cant say he played for the draw when we went all out attack.

Whilst you make wild sweeping statements it is hard to take anything you write seriously.

 

[Kareem]

If your sticking true to your convictions...
Would you kindly mind getting the f**k off the Lawrie In thread?

Travis bandwagons? McKinna puts on a striker but is clearly playing for a draw? Blabbing idiots professing love for their successful inaugural coach?

Your arguments are so poor, I feel like a fool having already come this far and putting this much effort into you.

Your not on the bandwagon Kareem...
your something it ran over and got stuck to the wheel.

But Im done trying to pull the nail that is Kareem out. I'm not wasting any more time on you till you grow up.

Forum Phoenix for Mariners Manager.

in that case McKinna In!
arnold in

Heck maybe even rebecca wilson in!

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Can we get a yawn smiley please?

 

[Kareem]

If your sticking true to your convictions...
Would you kindly mind getting the f**k off the Lawrie In thread?

McKinna puts on a striker but is clearly playing for a draw?

1. Fail! McKinna out thread is locked (nothign to do with me- shock horror!)
Not to mention its a forum...we express views. Just because you never posted in Lawrie out, doesn't mean people have to support topic titles! Oh wait- Kareem can't go against the topic title

2. If McKinna truly believed the out of form Mrdja can be depended on to break the deadlock...then my apologies, he had the right attitude- but a dodgy thought process!

I'm not wasting any more time on you till you grow up.

I lol'd hard at this. Why you may be wondering?
I'm 19...an age where you can expect an individual to be somewhat foolish, arrogant, all knowing etc.
I'd say the majority of 19 year olds have to grow up in one way or another!
My view on what I need to grow up in may be different to others here , but thats not my point!

My point is...here you are- how old are you? I'd say 30+ (just from 12 yr old son)...who knows?
Your a family man, with a job
(I am single, childless and a student)
...And you proceed into having an immature argument with a 19 year old...
If I am immature and have no life...
What's your excuse? 
I am going to go out on a limb (and if anyone can prove me wrong in 12-20 years time please pull me up on it)...and say by the time I am in my 30s working, hopefully with a family, I won't be having ridiculous arguments with a teenager on a footballing website...making posts at obscure times of the days.
I personally think with a family and job I should definately have better things to do...if not my life must suck!
This must surely be your daily highlight

 

[Forum Phoenix]

lol, Kareem tries to get... Perrrsennnellll....



Talk to the hat Kareem.