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Is it time for Hutchinson to retire?

Is it time for hutcho to retire

  • yes

    Votes: 7 16.3%
  • no

    Votes: 36 83.7%

  • Total voters
    43

Spacks

Well-Known Member
This season he didn't look quite up to it.

Slow, missed a lot of passes and lost possession too easily.

In my opinion it's time for Hutcho to stand down and Monty have a crack at running the show.

Thoughts?
 

VicMariner

Well-Known Member
I didn't think he was too bad this season although the last two or three games he seemed to be out of form.
Also, say what you want but he is a good leader.
 

Wombat

Well-Known Member
I would give him another season but definately not as a starting player and definately never in the defensive line. I would also give the armband to Monty.

However, Hutcho is a massive asset to the club in many unseen ways.
 

eenfish

Well-Known Member
Well you surprised me Wombat. I was sure you were gonna rip into him hardest of all.

I am also in the "not yet, give him one more year as a bench/rotation player" boat. He has had some poor games this year, but he has also had some very good games. Too bad arguably his worst was when we needed him most this weekend in Parramatta. Ah well.
 

Gratis

Well-Known Member
keep Hutch but give Monty the armband. Hutch does a great job and is an excellent culture leader but Monty is the best on field leader we have.
 

Tassiemariner

Well-Known Member
The guy is getting a testimonial in a pre-season game and the main fans forum is asking "Should we get rid of him".
Something doesn't feel quite right about that.

Also, What's the money on the 2 'yes' votes being Caceras and Curran? ;)
 

BrisRecky

I'm an idiot savant without the pesky savant bit
I'm with Wombat..make Hutcho the super sub ( sort of) ...mind you.
, him retiring would free up some funds
 

Big Al

Well-Known Member
Can he accept that he is 3rd man in behind Monty & Caceras with game time required for Kalik?

If so keep.
If not needs another role.

It's about his acceptance of the rise of Caceras & Monty as the preferred combo.

The bloke we know would not have a problem but sometimes competitive juices kick in.
 

dibo

Well-Known Member
I'm really not sure he *is* the 3rd man. There's a lot of talk about Caceres, but I'm still not really buying it. He lost the ball *a lot* the other night through misplaced passes. He probably makes more tackles than Hutcho (though not as many as Monty) and he's quick with the ball, but I'm not at all sure that he's the best option for anything. I'd want to see more out of him.

The notion that Hutch is a protected species (as Phish Phart suggests when writing "Keep but select on form only") is nonsense - Hutch didn't start every game this year, and it wasn't ever said to be injury-related so his name is able to be cut from the list as much as any other. I think he keeps getting starts because he's better at what we're trying to do.

When we flipped later in the year to playing with a DM sitting between the CBs effectively as a third CB, I can understand why Monty was preferred because he's got more mongrel when defending, but if we're going to play a deep DM in possession but a 4-4-2 in defence, I think Hutch picks himself there because he's better with the ball at feet.

I think Caceres still has work to do to be consistently preferred over either Monty or Hutch, and in large part that's because I'm still not sure what he's particularly good at or useful for.
 

Big Al

Well-Known Member
IMO Monty & Caceras were Mossy's prefered two although that could have been ACL related.

Roar, AU went with them but changed for WSW.

The ACL maybe giving me & others a false opinion but I felt we were better with Monty & Caceras.

Caceras vs. Hutch - Will come down to moving to the future at some point. Is that now? I think so but slowly.

Hutch definately has another year in him but he won't start more than 75% of games & I think it will be closer to 50%. I don't like using Hutch as a sub but Mossy didn't mind.
 

Wombat

Well-Known Member
I'm really not sure he *is* the 3rd man. There's a lot of talk about Caceres, but I'm still not really buying it. He lost the ball *a lot* the other night through misplaced passes. He probably makes more tackles than Hutcho (though not as many as Monty) and he's quick with the ball, but I'm not at all sure that he's the best option for anything. I'd want to see more out of him.

The notion that Hutch is a protected species (as Phish Phart suggests when writing "Keep but select on form only") is nonsense - Hutch didn't start every game this year, and it wasn't ever said to be injury-related so his name is able to be cut from the list as much as any other. I think he keeps getting starts because he's better at what we're trying to do.

When we flipped later in the year to playing with a DM sitting between the CBs effectively as a third CB, I can understand why Monty was preferred because he's got more mongrel when defending, but if we're going to play a deep DM in possession but a 4-4-2 in defence, I think Hutch picks himself there because he's better with the ball at feet.

I think Caceres still has work to do to be consistently preferred over either Monty or Hutch, and in large part that's because I'm still not sure what he's particularly good at or useful for.

I'm not 100% percent sold on Caceras either.

I'd grade Hutcho a C and Caceras a C+ on their performances this year.
 

Bladesman

Well-Known Member
The challenge for Caceras was that when he played as either the 10 or in the 6/8 combination with Hutch he seemed to struggle. Don't think he is a 10.

The problem I saw for Caceras is hutch slows the game by going backwards as opposed to Monty who wins more ball in midfield and moved it forward either to Caceras or to a player who he could then get the second ball from. He had a lot more impact and involvement playing next to Monty.
 

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