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midfielder

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I think all park clubs should set up a petition and send off if possible a million peoples names to the Commonwealth Gov to put the Socceroos on FTA.

If enough people signed they would make them FTA.
 

curious

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dibo said:
have you got any numbers to hand? i'd love to see what the average viewing audiences are for S14 compared to HAL.
The first two links have the paytv archives in word or pdf formats.
The one below is the easiest to find & is in word file. Week seven at the page bottom is the second week of super 14 & the 2nd leg of the aleague semis. They only go head to head for a few weeks. 2007 archives are also at the bottom of the page. It takes some time to dig it all out.
http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2008/01/2008-tv-ratings-archive.html
 

marinersman

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I wouldn't mind betting Howard and Lowy did a deal to keep the Footballeroos off the anti-syphoning list in order to get the maximum amount of money from Fox. As others have said, the commercial value lied with the NT at the time the original rights with with Fox. not the HAL.

Next time round though, it'll be a completely different story.
 

curious

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The weight of value will still lay with NT games. They outrate aleague 10/1.

I keep hearing things like you say marinersman, & i'm convinced many don't realise just how small a viewing average of 30/40/50K is & how this directly effects the commercial value?
 

marinersman

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I hear what you're saying curious.

I think the game against Japan in the Asian Cup was the largest ratings in history for pay TV.

The HAL is a work in progress and I don't see any reason why nationally we can't out rate kick and clap and the alcoholic neanderthals in the future. I stress nationally though. Not referring to NSW and Queensland alone.
 

midfielder

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There are six maybe seven sellable products, at a national level the Socceroos / Olyroos for the Olympics and the Matildas. At a domestic level we have the A-League, ACL, Womens league and maybe the youth league.

All national matches will get a reasonable TV audience with the Socceroos creating records I think. ACL being midweek will also be shown and will rate being Aussie V Asia / Middle East, I think the Womens League will have an audience and the A-League will be both FTA & Pay ..... I can see Saturday night and maybe Friday as a FTA,- A-League product ........ the youth league maybe if they use the league to develop skill then it will get an audience.

No other code can come close to this product range the next media  deal will be huge by Australian Football standards .......but will be a tester for the second media deal in ten years ....... if football rates reasonably well after the next media deal the second deal will see football with the biggest deal of all the codes.

Two things first we have to make it to the next media deal with a 12 to 14 team format good crowds averaging over 15, 000 ....... Second the foundations in place for a "B" league start up in 7 or 8 years from know. ..... Both these things will need all the powers Obie One (Frank Lowy) can muster. For our part we need to just keep coming to games even if the team starts playing crap and bring as many people as we can to games.
 

FFC Mariner

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A trap football must avoid is scheduling game times to suit FTA (assuming we get on at some point that is).

The ideal would be to black it out in the city the game is played in (like cricket) but I doubt they would do it.
 

dibo

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Greenpoleffc said:
A trap football must avoid is scheduling game times to suit FTA (assuming we get on at some point that is).

The ideal would be to black it out in the city the game is played in (like cricket) but I doubt they would do it.

i think we'd only have one game a week on FTA (quite likely the friday night or sunday afternoon slot i would think) with the rest on fox much like the NRL, and a home market blackout on matchdays is a perfectly sensible idea.
 

FFC Mariner

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Would work for football better then the "minor" codes that are only centred on 3 cities (Syd and Bris for NRL and Tardistan for GayFL).

I can understand Fox not wanting to give a competitor a free kick but a smart move would be to allow a weekly highlights/preview show on the ABC. They would never be able to afford the rights so any following they acquire would be moot.

The uplift for the brand would be immense and revenue positive.
 

curious

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& even though the ABC or any other fta network would have no rights to show any of the games, they would be ever so keen to show a highlights/preview package of a league owned by a competitor in paytv, & promote the sports programming of paytv at the expense of thier own programmes. Now that would be a first in Aust. tv history.
FTA will tell fox or the FFA to stick it up their nose if all they are expected to do is free promotion for foxsports programmes.

Dibo....when you look into the paytv ratings in those links, have a gander at the FTA sports ratings for an idea of the enormous exposure being lost to football on a weekly basis.
 

Jesus

Jesus
Greenpoleffc said:
A trap football must avoid is scheduling game times to suit FTA (assuming we get on at some point that is).

The ideal would be to black it out in the city the game is played in (like cricket) but I doubt they would do it.

We have that problem now. Why we played at 3pm, and perth at 2pm is purely for sydney to be on at 5pm, and wellington at 5pm to a lesser extent. When a game needs drinks breaks, you know there is a problem with scheduling. NYE is fine, cause it is a special one off. But for just a plain round 8 fixture?
 

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