Club Ownership

[Big Al]

Should Mike repeat the Rich deal but make it a pure lease. Let rich people run the club for 3 each then you move. Let sports people or business people have a play toy. Burn x amount of money and then off they go.

Might be more affordable for interested people. As the smallest club we need to think of alternatives.

Just an idea until we find a buyer. Maybe one of the try before you buy sticks.

 

[Big Al]

Both crowds and ratings are up a lot.... only two weeks in so way way way to early to read anything into it... interesting through is neither SFC nor MV have played home matches and my guess is both will draw healthy crowds....

TV ratings to date are blowing the roof off last season,,, and last season way way up on the season before...

If this trend continues even if it slows a little... finding a buyer for us will be much easier than three years ago.... MC has played his cards well... the league overall is picking up .....

Rd 1 Sydney derby with actually marquees plus new team in Auckland certainly helped.

Sydney crowds should be good and same with WSW while mata is still playing and if they win.

Lets hope it continues

 

[Coastalraider]

I think you need to factor in the weather and the worse than usual promotion from the club. I thought the pod described it well, non Coasties who don't understand our fan base

I think this vastly over-estimates coasties also… there’s a core of actual mariners fans that has grown somewhat with success who attend games throughout the year, but in general coasties don’t want to go to a Mariners game, they want to go to an event. Finals are a major event on the coast, the new years game is a major event on the coast. This is where the sell out crowds come from but any expectation to mirror those numbers in regular season games without some kind of ‘major event’ feel is quite frankly naive.

 

[marinermick]

I think this vastly over-estimates coasties also… there’s a core of actual mariners fans that has grown somewhat with success who attend games throughout the year, but in general coasties don’t want to go to a Mariners game, they want to go to an event. Finals are a major event on the coast, the new years game is a major event on the coast. This is where the sell out crowds come from but any expectation to mirror those numbers in regular season games without some kind of ‘major event’ feel is quite frankly naive.

Agree with this and it always perplexes me why the club doesn’t have more events associated with their games and work more closely with the APL on this. I always thought a traditional Australia Day game versus WSW should be on the cards, as well as a “Come Play” round each February closely linked with the local clubs e.g. clubs can have their registration tables there, north v south curtain raiser, a representative from each local club in a sprint race or crossbar challenge, each club allocated a bay and you wear your club colours etc.

The links with local clubs has deteriorated the last few years. I tried to get a Mariners representative to our club senior presentation night but received a decline. Three hundred people were there. Our State Member and our new Mayor, as well as another councillor accepted invitations. Big chance to promote and enhance your brand was missed.

 

[Stuartmcateer]

Just an idea until we find a buyer. Maybe one of the try before you buy sticks.

The try before you buy didn't hang around after a treble winning season, and back to back championships.

It's not really a sound investment buying a football club.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Agree with this and it always perplexes me why the club doesn’t have more events associated with their games and work more closely with the APL on this. I always thought a traditional Australia Day game versus WSW should be on the cards, as well as a “Come Play” round each February closely linked with the local clubs e.g. clubs can have their registration tables there, north v south curtain raiser, a representative from each local club in a sprint race or crossbar challenge, each club allocated a bay and you wear your club colours etc.

The links with local clubs has deteriorated the last few years. I tried to get a Mariners representative to our club senior presentation night but received a decline. Three hundred people were there. Our State Member and our new Mayor, as well as another councillor accepted invitations. Big chance to promote and enhance your brand was missed.

I think its generally agreed that Danny's APL wasnt fan centric, seems its spread to CCM. We were a community club, now we arent.
Simple

 

[Ironbark]

Agree with this and it always perplexes me why the club doesn’t have more events associated with their games and work more closely with the APL on this. I always thought a traditional Australia Day game versus WSW should be on the cards, as well as a “Come Play” round each February closely linked with the local clubs e.g. clubs can have their registration tables there, north v south curtain raiser, a representative from each local club in a sprint race or crossbar challenge, each club allocated a bay and you wear your club colours etc.

The links with local clubs has deteriorated the last few years. I tried to get a Mariners representative to our club senior presentation night but received a decline. Three hundred people were there. Our State Member and our new Mayor, as well as another councillor accepted invitations. Big chance to promote and enhance your brand was missed.

I think the main reason it doesn't happen at the moment is that the events / backroom staff are already massively overstretched just keeping up with what they can. The club would need to prioritise this strategy and throw some resources into making it achievable

 

[marinermick]

I think the main reason it doesn't happen at the moment is that the events / backroom staff are already massively overstretched just keeping up with what they can. The club would need to prioritise this strategy and throw some resources into making it achievable

There is a general manager of community and partnership as well as a community liaison officer. Two full time positions, one commanding a senior leadership wage. What is the priority for these two full time roles if not the local clubs? This is low hanging fruit for the Mariners and no where near fully tapped.

 

[midfielder]

Rd 1 Sydney derby with actually marquees plus new team in Auckland certainly helped.

Sydney crowds should be good and same with WSW while mata is still playing and if they win.

Lets hope it continues

It's way way way to early in the season to draw any conclusions. However compared to the last couple of seasons the lift especially in ratings looks a good sign.

 

[FFC Mariner]

It's way way way to early in the season to draw any conclusions. However compared to the last couple of seasons the lift especially in ratings looks a good sign.

No covid and Danny out the door. They replaced him and his crew of deadbeats with football people and decided to run a football comp rather than a media empire.
It shows

 

[bikinigirl]

There is a general manager of community and partnership as well as a community liaison officer. Two full time positions, one commanding a senior leadership wage. What is the priority for these two full time roles if not the local clubs? This is low hanging fruit for the Mariners and no where near fully tapped.

. how does someone find out who these people are ... maybe they could be contacted directly?

. the only listings i could find were for the football department (Alyssar is the only non-football staff member listed) ... but i don't think the CCM website is the best place to look for such info

 

[Big Al]

How many new roles stay after the change. Rich did add in some areas and Mike probably can’t afford that

 

[marinermick]

. how does someone find out who these people are ... maybe they could be contacted directly?

. the only listings i could find were for the football department (Alyssar is the only non-football staff member listed) ... but i don't think the CCM website is the best place to look for such info

I have the two names and emails if anyone wants to message me. They emailed all the clubs and recently had a club information session at Pluim to go through match day allocation for each club and responsibilities, as well as the male and female ambassadors for each club.

 

[Wombat]

. how does someone find out who these people are ... maybe they could be contacted directly?

. the only listings i could find were for the football department (Alyssar is the only non-football staff member listed) ... but i don't think the CCM website is the best place to look for such info

I have not met her personally but reviews are mixed. I guess it takes a while to grow into the position and she may turn out to be a blessing.

 

[Wombat]

How many new roles stay after the change. Rich did add in some areas and Mike probably can’t afford that

I dont think Rich added in any areas personal wise tbh. Alot of asset stripping in the last 6 months.

 

[bikinigirl]

I have not met her personally but reviews are mixed. I guess it takes a while to grow into the position and she may turn out to be a blessing.

. I've met Alyssar and she seems quite nice and respectful of the community club ethos ... apparently she was living on the coast and commuting to APL HQ which may be different to some people's opinions

. regardless of her skills and experience (good or bad), she can't do it all alone. my point was, if she does have other resources at her disposal: who knows who they are and what they do?

 

[midfielder]

It's way way way to early in the season to draw any conclusions. However compared to the last couple of seasons the lift especially in ratings looks a good s

The ratings mostly come from TVtonight

Ratings | TV Tonight

tvtonight.com.au

The key metric stats from last year where show a lot by APL last year...

'Real momentum': Isuzu UTE A-League sees three years of consecutive growth

Following an incredible final series with sold out crowds, record TV viewers and fantastic football, the metrics show a positive trajectory across the regular season and finals series both on and off the pitch.

aleagues.com.au

Crowds from ultimate a-league

Attendance Statistics :: Totals / Averages (Home Club) :: Ultimate A-League

From the Attendance Statistics section, you access crowd statistics for all A-League Men's competition seasons and matches.

www.ultimatealeague.com

Paramount rating currently 64k per game up 48% on last year..... which was up 33% on the 22/23 season...

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