CCM vs Victory Away

[BrisRecky]

to be truly uplifting about this forthcoming kickabout ...f**k 'em , its only the Mexicans

 

[turbo]

To be fair most of our stats won’t be favourable with referees because we were so shit for so long. Conversely stats will look better with the more successful clubs.

How do I like a post twice?

Most games are not won or lost by referees despite what people think.

Well there's a few exceptions. Penalty Adelaide?

 

[Tevor]

We also won games because of officiating but you choose to ignore that.

Despite being in the finals the last two years and maybe this year, when was the last time we won in Victoria? What state does JB mostly referee in? Was JB responsible for our Victorian losses?

Here are some stats on games with JB, Victoria and Victorian teams is not a defining factor.

Since 2019 (when we have been a much better team) - 10 games officiating (2 at CCS, 1 QLD, 2 NZ, 3 other NSW stadiums and 2 in Victoria)

Our dire Victorian results have very little to do with JB as we only played 2 games in Victoria a draw with Victory and loss to Homeless FC at Geelong. All other 8 games were against non Victorian teams and we won our two games in that period and that was against the Roar about a month ago and scum in 2021. We had a loss and draw in our two home games against SFC and Perth respectively.

I guess we will find out on Sunday afternoon how he goes.

 

[marinermick]

How do I like a post twice?


Well there's a few exceptions. Penalty Adelaide?

Hence the word “most”.

 

[marinermick]

Here are some stats on games with JB, Victoria and Victorian teams is not a defining factor.

Since 2019 (when we have been a much better team) - 10 games officiating (2 at CCS, 1 QLD, 2 NZ, 3 other NSW stadiums and 2 in Victoria)

Our dire Victorian results have very little to do with JB as we only played 2 games in Victoria a draw with Victory and loss to Homeless FC at Geelong. All other 8 games were against non Victorian teams and we won our two games in that period and that was against the Roar about a month ago and scum in 2021. We had a loss and draw in our two home games against SFC and Perth respectively.

I guess we will find out on Sunday afternoon how he goes.

So actually, nothing pointing towards JB being in on a conspiracy theory against us?

 

[Tevor]

So actually, nothing pointing towards JB being in on a conspiracy theory against us?

We are actually not the worst under him only second worst, the Drive Byes are no wins from 9 matches. As someone mentioned he seems to not want to review his decisions and consider changing them if it's warranted. That is always a worry as well as being prone to giving away very soft free kicks and Pens. To me that shows what appears to be confidence issues around his decision making.

 

[turbo]

As someone mentioned he seems to not want to review his decisions and consider changing them if it's warranted

Some teams play to a ref very well and others dont. Ideally there should be nothing to vary but if you know someone gives soft fouls while another doesnt (like Faghani) you need to adjust your approach. I dont think we do that very well tbh.

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

This is the third season we have now been a finals team, Barreiro has been officiating for 5 or 6 seasons. Our second win with him was not long ago against the Roar. Before that was 1 win in 15 games.

10/16 games with him were in our shit years

Out of the remaining 6 (except for the BR game) , are games we know we've choked. 1 all Nix, 0-5 SFC, 0-1 Jets, 1-all PG and MV

We also won games because of officiating but you choose to ignore that.

Not nearly as many as we've lost....


Anyway, I think we've focusing too much on those stats.

Over the years he's been refereeing, we've had win %as low as 11.11%. Our draw % with him is much higher than our actual average. I think it would be a bit of a stretch to be saying 'it's high with him because he's in the conspiracy and makes dodgy decisions to prevent us winning'.

He's refereed a few of our 4-5 game losses.

25% of our games he's refereed have been one of the 3 Melbourne teams. As we know, our club is somehow allergic to playing in Mexico, though a couple of his were draws. And in most cases, our Melbourne games aren't due to refereeing (especially if we take the Shaun f**king Evans games out of the equation); we're just shit when we come down here.

4 games of his we've lost by 3 or more.

I don't think the stats really tell us much. Of course we can recall some times he's made wrong calls against us - there isn't a single referee out there who hasn't made mistakes against every club, but I don't recall (and others may disagree) him being a particularl poor or problematic referee for us, unlike about half of the refereeing squad.

The 2 idiots in the bunker, however, don't even pretend to be impartial - though the biggest question isn't why are they so f**king dodgy, but why are they allowed to get away with it. But, that's a question we've discussed many times.

It's a problem when we have a must-win game, and we can expect to get f**ked by VAR - especially when we've already had a number of very questionable red cards over the last few weeks.

Who's going to get sent off for blinking at an opponent this week? At what minute in the match will we see a penalty awarded because the velco on Danny's gloves is crooked?

The bigger test will be - can we rally when the Duo of Dodginess, KGJ and KA in the bunker start to remember to f**k us?

 

[marinermick]

Triantis, Kaltak and Moresche back in the squad this weekend. Farrell still out.

 

[Corsair]

Triantis, Kaltak and Moresche back in the squad this weekend. Farrell still out.

I hope he doesn't start Kaltak

 

[Corsair]

Central Coast Mariners Squad ​

3. Brian KALTAK, 4. Joshua NISBET, 5. James MCGARRY, 6. Maximilien BALARD, 7. Samuel SILVERA, 9. Jason CUMMINGS, 10. Matheus MORESCHE, 13. Harry STEELE, 14. Dylan WENZEL-HALLS, 15. Storm ROUX, 20. Danny VUKOVIC, 22. Cameron WINDUST, 23. Daniel HALL, 24. Yaren SOZER, 25. Nectarios TRIANTIS, 27. Sasha KUZEVSKI, 28. James BAYLISS, 31. Christian THEOHAROUS, 41. Nicholas DUARTE, 98. Marco Tulio

Ins: 3. Brian KALTAK, 10. Matheus MORESCHE, 25. Nectarios TRIANTIS

Outs: 18. Jacob FARRELL (Illness), 32. Dean LARSON, 42. Zac ZORICICH

Unavailable: Beni NKOLOLO (Suspension), Bradley TAPP (injury)

Team News: Montgomery names 20 man squad for Melbourne trip

Central Coast Mariners head coach Nick Montgomery has named his 20 man squad to travel and face Melbourne Victory this Sunday afternoon at AAMI Park. Following an impressive victory over Macarthur last weekend that featured 12 players aged 23 and...

ccmariners.com.au

 

[Corsair]

Anyone know if Wenzel_Denzel is training yet?

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

So we're now the feature match on Ten Bold after Macarthur vs City got pushed back:

A-Leagues Alumni

Welcome to the new A-Leagues Alumni section, which will allow fans to continue reading about the best stories involving the products who have come through the A-Leagues and are now flying the flag on the global stage.

keepup.com.au

 

[Archie]

Anyone know if Wenzel_Denzel is training yet?

His Instagram said he was

 

[scottmac]

You'd have to think Kaltak starts. He's been brilliant, red cards aside, and grown into the season. Hopefully he's learnt his lesson regarding diving in, but not too much.

 

[turbo]

I think Kaltak and Triantis come straight back in fitness permitting. Not a slight on the others but I doubt they've done enough to hold them out.

 

[midfielder]

Issue with Kaltak is players diving in tackles .... IMO a risky start to me it appears his card is marked ...

 

[JoyfulPenguin]

 

[JoyfulPenguin]