CCM to post a profit

[nebakke]

ccm crowing about making a profit while bringing the game of Football in Australia into disrepute makes me cringe.
Its like McDonalds cheering about the fact they no longer have any meat in their burgers.

Dude!... I'm hurting too here, but someone's got to cut the bullshit about bringing the game into disrepute... That's what's so frustrating about the rele/promo discussion as well...
We didn't even have the biggest loss last night... Of the losing teams, an argument could've been made that we fared the best - especially considering how we've gone against the Nux this season.
Jest has been sh*t every year, SFC has been arguably a bigger embarrassment, with the finances and the "biggest club" claims... Oh and actually having rorted the salary cap.
Perff rorted the salary cap last year and fell apart, when they were found out and had to make do with a team within the cap...
THAT's the sort of sh*t that brings the game into disrepute... Losing every game, playing to a tight budget etc. etc. does nothing to (or for) the game - it just... Get a f*****g sense of proportion people!

You're not going to see anyone outside football, comment on the financials at the Mariners anymore, irrespective of whether the money comes from salary savings or somewhere else. Arguably we placed a greater risk to the rep of the game when we were looking at court cases with the ATO, late payments, the coach covering pay delays out of his own allowance etc. etc...

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

ccm crowing about making a profit while bringing the game of Football in Australia into disrepute makes me cringe.
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What an utter load of baloney. Is Wombat actually the online identity of Mark Bosnich? Because he's the only person who comes up with the disgusting, consistent 'mariners shouldn't exist' tripe ..NFI why he hates CCM so passionately....

The point is, he (along with some braindead MV fans who think they have the only team in the comp with the arrogance that only MV fans seem to know) are the only ones going along with this 'game into disrepute' tripe. It makes no sense as a conclusion, really. Every year somebody has to win the wooden spoon. This year it's us. That's not 'bringing the game into disrepute'. That's just a fact of the ladder. The high number of red cards and other ouststanding aspects of our performance (such as the fact that apparently somebody told the team that you can score a goal without shooting) don't really change that at all. While frustratingly high, most of them haven't been particularly noteworthy cards.

Bringing the game into disrepute?

I know you're angry and upset mate, but cool your head, because that sort of comment is the sort of anti-CCM hysterics I've seen enough of on facebook or heard from braindead commentators. I wouldn't have expected that from somebody on here. That's really going way too far.

The only thing we've really done to draw bad attention is Roy's Headbutt. Aside from that, it's one bad season from a club that has had more success on and off the field than most clubs in the HAL, and is still making some achievements off the field (I know people's concerns about the business side at the moment, but it's still important to get this right. It would be a lot worse if we were failing there as well).

Let's keep a little bit of perspective here, hmm?

 

[Wombat]

I stand by my comment.

From MC down it has been a terrible season.

The season has ONLY been about cutting our debt. For fiscal responsibilty we get a A+.
For the Football we have served up.... an F.

Going into the season with the mentality that results dont matter......is an insult to all Mariners fans and the great players that have graced the field in our colours in past seasons.

If we had sent out our Youth team ......would that be bringing the game into disrepute?

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Terrible season is a long, long way from 'bringing the game into disrepute'.
Those sorts of hysterics aren't helping anybody. Might gain you exclusive access into some sort of Fox Sports Commentator circle jerk, but they're so far from reality that I can't even comprehend how a CCM fan can come to that conclusion. I'm used to those comments from the usual haters from other clubs and we're all used to treating those comments with the contempt they deserve. The fact that they come from a CCM fan doesn't make them any more true.

I don't disagree with most of the rest of your last post. But still a very far cry from that and claiming that we're bringing the game into disrepute.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Having a convicted child sex offender in your squad is bringing the game into disrepute.

What the Mariners leadership and coaching staff have done is to sully the badge.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Who are you referring to?

 

[FFC Mariner]

Who are you referring to?

Not us. Down the M1

 

[Wombat]

Terrible season is a long, long way from 'bringing the game into disrepute'.
Those sorts of hysterics aren't helping anybody. Might gain you exclusive access into some sort of Fox Sports Commentator circle jerk, but they're so far from reality that I can't even comprehend how a CCM fan can come to that conclusion. I'm used to those comments from the usual haters from other clubs and we're all used to treating those comments with the contempt they deserve. The fact that they come from a CCM fan doesn't make them any more true.

I don't disagree with most of the rest of your last post. But still a very far cry from that and claiming that we're bringing the game into disrepute.

If we had sent out our Youth team to save money and because you can't get relegated ......would that be bringing the game into disrepute??

 

[Luca Brasi]

Might gain you exclusive access into some sort of Fox Sports Commentator circle jerk

I have been traumatized by this image.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

If we had sent out our Youth team to save money and because you can't get relegated ......would that be bringing the game into disrepute??

Pointless question, not even going to bother engaging there if that's all you're responding with.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

As if our football wasn't traumatic enough.

Every year coaches/clubs make decisions that see them ultimately screw up and perform badly. They do not start with bad intentions. Failing has consequences for coaches players and clubs, but the idea failing is of itself something morally reprehensive in some way is just obnoxious.

I think the big PR blunder here was the "winning doesn't matter" line by MC.

But its been well over blown and the team coaches clearly have wanted and played to win most games. They've failed badly. But THAT'S FOOTBALL.

Telling a team of largely young promising players and the coaches who've almost certainly busted a gut trying to improve that they've brought the game into disrepute... Is downright wrong and disgraceful. So I'm hoping you're targeting MC Wombat?

But is it fair to call an owner whose pumped millions into a club that by trying to pull off a money ball season to get the club back on track that he's bringing the game into disrepute?

I think that's ridiculous. I think if he's living in some parrallel universe and can't see he got it wrong - then we should tell him he's a fool and he needs to spend more and of course results bloody matter etc...

But I won't be swayed or take up the position of fox or any other axe grinding mother f**kers, bitter simpleton pundits or some other clubs arrogant wanker fans who are still butthurt that we ever dared to beat them before.

There is a clear pattern of demonising when it comes to CCM - as already pointed out - theres less pressure on clubs when they break the salary cap rules - we're the most prominently named and shamed when it come to super issues a number of clubs had at the same time...Other clubs with multiple spoons... Attendance... Mass exodus.. Phone gate... Etc etc...

I'll cop how shit we are and that we need change in the off season. But there's a clear narrative when it comes to CCM that we should push back hard against whenever it presents itself. Not fall prey to its flawed ressoning and utterly bullshit bias.

 

[Wombat]

Pointless question, not even going to bother engaging there if that's all you're responding with.

Why is it pointless? I'm trying to get you to understand (at a very basic level) why our OP this year have been a blight on our great game and has damaged our name.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Uhh, maybe pointless because we didn't field our youth team?

This is just getting ridiculous. If you feel that copping the wooden spoon makes us 'bringing the game into disrepute' then sell your jersey on Ebay and join the MV or WSW bandwagoners.

I didn't expect a fan to fall into the 'CCM shouldn't exist' hysterics. Very disappointing.

 

[Wombat]

As if our football wasn't traumatic enough.

Every year coaches/clubs make decisions that see them ultimately screw up and perform badly. They do not start with bad intentions. Failing has consequences for coaches players and clubs, but the idea failing is of itself something morally reprehensive in some way is just obnoxious.

I think the big PR blunder here was the "winning doesn't matter" line by MC.

But its been well over blown and the team coaches clearly have wanted and played to win most games. They've failed badly. But THAT'S FOOTBALL.

Telling a team of largely young promising players and the coaches who've almost certainly busted a gut trying to improve that they've brought the game into disrepute... Is downright wrong and disgraceful. So I'm hoping you're targeting MC Wombat?

But is it fair to call an owner whose pumped millions into a club that by trying to pull off a money ball season to get the club back on track that he's bringing the game into disrepute?

I think that's ridiculous. I think if he's living in some parrallel universe and can't see he got it wrong - then we should tell him he's a fool and he needs to spend more and of course results bloody matter etc...

But I won't be swayed or take up the position of fox or any other axe grinding mother f**kers, bitter simpleton pundits or some other clubs arrogant wanker fans who are still butthurt that we ever dared to beat them before.

There is a clear pattern of demonising when it comes to CCM - as already pointed out - theres less pressure on clubs when they break the salary cap rules - we're the most prominently named and shamed when it come to super issues a number of clubs had at the same time...Other clubs with multiple spoons... Attendance... Mass exodus.. Phone gate... Etc etc...

I'll cop how shit we are and that we need change in the off season. But there's a clear narrative when it comes to CCM that we should push back hard against whenever it presents itself. Not fall prey to its flawed ressoning and utterly bullshit bias.

LOL.
Bit OTT FP.
Yes...its very much aimed at MC.

Uhh, maybe pointless because we didn't field our youth team?

This is just getting ridiculous. If you feel that copping the wooden spoon makes us 'bringing the game into disrepute' then sell your jersey on Ebay and join the MV or WSW bandwagoners.

I didn't expect a fan to fall into the 'CCM shouldn't exist' hysterics. Very disappointing.

Your posts get more ludicrous by the minute.
You go to one game a year?!
The wooden spoon i can cop you stooge....its the process that got us there.....DO YOU UNDERSTAND??

 

[Forum Phoenix]

Ok cool. I still think you're wrong Wombat about the disrepute nonsense, but it is a very sore point for me and you surprised me on this.

I'm seriously pissed off about our treatment by Fox and various cronies, I really did cancel my Foxtel - which has been a pain in the ass - but there was more biased crap than I could take. And now pulling out this relegation debate bullshit for the first time when it happens to be our first time spooning. Such horse-shit.


They have a grudge and an agenda. And I think the last thing we want to do is start going along with any of it - there is a strong narrative about why we're not worthy to exist out there - which is why your post clearly got under the skin of a few on here.

But we should probably all drop this now - it's just a shit fight that no possible good can come of. Be much better if we can find a way to survive this shitty period without tearing quite so many chunks out of each other - no one is feeling chirpy at present, frustration is high and tempers short. That's understandable. We need to chill, put this season behind us, take the off field positives and see what the off season brings. Some good signings and a bit of positive buzz and most members will start to soften a bit I think.