Indeed without ANZ we do not reach the requirementsmarinermick said:I think they mean building another stadium at homebush.
ANZ is defintely on the list.
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Indeed without ANZ we do not reach the requirementsmarinermick said:I think they mean building another stadium at homebush.
ANZ is defintely on the list.
MrCelery said:marinermick said:Qatar playing dirty:
http://www.qatar2022bid.com/lognew/?post=27
check comments at bottom of page
And Adz's post on the Qatar Bid site is the Post Of the Week!:
6. adz
05 May 2010 08:30
I don't know where Qatar is, but I do like playing Qatar Hero on PS3. All the best with your bid.
11. Andrew Demetriou
09 May 2010 15:19
Go Qatar! You have my full support!
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/frank-lowy-hands-australias-world-cup-bid-to-fifa-20100514-v49l.html
ZURICH: Bid chief Frank Lowy was hopeful there'd be talk of the lucky country once again as Australia kicked off presentations from nine candidates to host the 2018 or 2022 soccer World Cup.
Australia delivered its bid to FIFA president Sepp Blatter, handing over a 750-page book detailing how it would stage the world's biggest sporting event.
"It is now the kick off," Blatter told the Australian delegation.
Four bidders from Europe, four from the Asian confederation plus the United States were set to file through in alphabetical order to present their technical documents.
Australia was followed by an England bid team fronted by David Beckham.
Football Federation Australia chairman Frank Lowy said he recognised it was a difficult contest.
"We hope and pray that we might be the lucky country," said Lowy, a billionaire businessman who is leading the bid.
"We are proud to present to FIFA our bid documents, highlighting a technically brilliant bid supported by unified government funding and commitment at all levels," Lowy said.
"Our nationwide hosting proposal means millions of sports fans across Australia will be able to enjoy the biggest and most exciting sporting event in the world in wonderful new or upgraded stadiums in their own cities. Europe is favoured to be given the 2018 finals, with England and Russia competing against joint bids from Netherlands-Belgium and Spain-Portugal. All four are also in the 2022 race but would be barred if one gets the 2018 tournament.
Australia and the US also are in both contests with the latter expected to be a more realistic chance of success.
Japan, Qatar and South Korea have focused solely on 2022, believing Europe is a lock for 2018 because the 2010 tournament is in South Africa and Brazil hosts in 2014.
Each bid book explains how the monthlong, 64-match tournament would be organised, with details of at least 12 stadiums, plus training camps, hotels, security protocols, IT and medical support, and fans' entertainment.
Candidates must also give FIFA copies of government guarantees, contracts with each city and venue, and details of finance and insurance cover.
FIFA officials will use the bid books as the basis for technical inspections of each candidate between July and September.
FIFA's 24 executive members will choose the two hosts on December 2 in Zurich.
Five of the current bidders have previously staged a World Cup: England (1966), Spain (1982), US (1994), and Japan and South Korea (co-hosted 2002).
Five nations - Brazil (1950 & 2014), France (1938 & 1998), Germany (1974 & 2006), Italy (1934 & 1990) and Mexico (1970 & 1986) - have been awarded two World Cups.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/our-world-cup-fields-of-dreams-will-help-all-codes-20100514-v4f4.html
Our World Cup fields of dreams will help all codes
MICHAEL COCKERILL
May 15, 2010
A new $270 million rectangular stadium at Blacktown is football's big win from the World Cup bid, unveiled at FIFA headquarters in Switzerland early this morning.
Football Federation Australia chairman Frank Lowy presented Australia's official bid book for either the 2018 or 2022 World Cups to his FIFA counterpart, Sepp Blatter, as the jockeying among the nine other competing nations entered the home straight. FIFA will make its decision in December, with the European candidates (England, Spain/Portugal, Netherlands/Belgium and Russia) widely favoured to host the tournament in 2018 - leaving Australia to compete with the United States, Japan, South Korea and Qatar for the 2022 event.
Lowy, who has made winning the World Cup bid the last great mission of his life, said last night the completion of the documentation was an exciting milestone in Australia's history
'We're proud to be presenting to FIFA bid documents that highlight a technically brilliant bid supported by unified government funding and commitment at all levels,'' Lowy said.
''This nationwide hosting proposal means millions of sports fans across the country will be able to enjoy the biggest and most exciting sporting event in the world in wonderful new or upgraded stadiums in their own cities. The infrastructure investment will leave a legacy to all sporting codes in the nation for generations to come.''
The leather-bound, 750-page bid book contains all conceptual and technical aspects of a bid which PricewaterhouseCoopers last year estimated was worth a net benefit of $345 million to the nation. Apart from that, the FFA itself - historically the most cash-strapped organisation among the four football codes - is estimated to be in line for a $300m windfall should the bid be successful.
The centrepiece of the bid is a $2.8 billion stadium development program that would include 12 venues in all states and territories except Tasmania and Northern Territory. Three new stadiums could be built and nine others upgraded and improved should Australia win World Cup hosting rights. The stadiums were selected following an assessment process involving industry experts in the areas of sports architecture, engineering, cost planning, security, transport and environment.
The new stadiums would include a 60,000-seat stadium in the Subiaco precinct in Perth, a 40,000-seat stadium near the Australian Institute of Sport in Canberra and a 41,000-seat stadium at Blacktown's Olympic Park precinct, directly opposite the AFL site. The stadiums to be upgraded and have their capacity either permanently or temporarily increased include Sydney Football Stadium, the MCG, ANZ Stadium, Suncorp Stadium, Adelaide Oval and venues in Geelong, Townsville, Gold Coast and Newcastle.
With the AFL gaining an enormous benefit from the infrastructure spending - notably in Geelong, Perth and Adelaide - the new stadium at Blacktown looms as football's biggest legacy. It's understood the Greater Western Sydney AFL side is resigned to spending $30m to upgrade Sydney Showground at Homebush Bay as its home ground. With no NRL side in the vicinity, the Blacktown venue is likely to fall into the lap of A-League newcomers Sydney Rovers, who join the competition next year.
While the Blacktown stadium is unlikely to be built for another five years at the earliest if Australia's bid is successful, its post-World Cup capacity of 26,000 is ideal for the A-League team. Sydney Rovers chairman Ian Rowden said last night the new venue would be ''a great legacy for football in its heartland of western Sydney''.
''A purpose-built stadium is what football really needs and we'd certainly love to play there,'' he said. ''I'm very excited by this.''
midfielder said:The bid ....home page
http://www.australia2018-2022.com.au/
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/ungracious-under-pressure-demetriou-needs-to-be-put-in-his-place-20100514-v4f6.html
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football...0514-v4f6.html
Ungracious under pressure, Demetriou needs to be put in his place
MICHAEL COCKERILL
May 15, 2010
Australia's World Cup stadiums look fantastic and probably will be. Evenly spread across the nation - only Tasmania and Northern Territory miss out - and sure to be filled to the brim if Frank Lowy's legendary powers of persuasion win the votes that count in Zurich at the end of the year.
It was in the Swiss financial capital that Lowy presented the official bid book to FIFA boss Sepp Blatter yesterday. It's a book with a tale of its own, so tortuous have been the negotiations with two tiers of government and the other three football codes. Actually, make that one. Rugby league and rugby union have, by and large, got into the spirit of the occasion. Supportive in deeds as much as words. Hats off to John O'Neill and David Gallop for thinking big, not small.
Which brings us to the AFL. Perhaps the biggest surprise at yesterday's presentation at FIFA House was that Andrew Demetriou wasn't part of the official FFA party. So well has the belligerent AFL boss run the agenda that he's entitled to believe he has contributed as much as anyone else.
Which he has. From day one, Demetriou has been white-anting the bid. From day one, through his various media acolytes, he's been able to steer public opinion. From day one, he's put pressure - both public and private - on those politicians who might, just might, have sided with the argument that one of the most important factors in Australia hosting the World Cup is a legacy to the game that delivered it.
Demetriou has thrown his weight around and it's worked. Guess who's the big winner from the bid book as it stands? The AFL. It's like taking candy from a baby. In 2000, the AFL got millions of dollars in improvements for the Gabba and some notable upgrades at the MCG thanks to the football competition. Now they've done even better. Much better.
Depending on your arithmetic, there will be between $2.5 billion and $3 billion spent on stadium infrastructure if Australia gets the World Cup in either 2018 or 2022. Of the 12 stadiums, five are fundamentally for the AFL. Brand new stadiums in Perth and massively improved stadiums in Adelaide, Geelong and Gold Coast, and a lick of paint for the venerable MCG. Not a bad dividend for a sport that is only played in Australia and on an oval, not a rectangle.
Given Australia's diverse sporting landscape, multi-use venues are not a problem in themselves. Not perfect, but not necessarily bad. The trouble is the AFL don't know how to share. Not only do they get the bricks and mortar, they then screw any other leasees to the ground. You'd think having won the argument, Demetriou might be gracious or at least modest. But no. There he was last week, in big, bold headlines, claiming it if hadn't been for the AFL's generosity of spirit, the bid would have been doomed. Incredible.
But perhaps the piece de resistance is in the fine print. A demand for compensation for having to move fixtures to smaller grounds or regional centres. Games which will, in all likelihood, have to be shifted in 12 years' time.
The AFL is rich. The FFA is close to broke. The estimated $300 million that football will get from hosting the World Cup is the equivalent of two years worth of TV money for the AFL. But Demetriou wants his cut of that as well.
Up until now, the FFA has stayed mute in the face of Demetriou's relentless onslaught. So far he's played his old mate Ben Buckley off a break. Hopefully not for much longer. Having handed over the bid book, the FFA is no longer beholden to anyone. The time has come for the empire to strike back.
Australia will host a magnificent World Cup, if given the chance. But so will many of the alternatives. The FFA's most compelling argument to FIFA is that hosting the World Cup is a game-changer for the sport. Not a lifesaver because football will evolve regardless. But it will fundamentally change the dynamic and that's what a bully-boy like Demetriou is afraid of. Sooner or later, he needs to be put in his place.
adz said:midfielder said:...
But for the AFL to want all cost paid to them plus 100 million for the MCG for ten weeks is beyond greedy...plus now it appears holding off signing the MCG over unless the Blacktown stadium is in an oval shape and the bid is due in next Thursday...
Where did you get all that from?? You should think about working for the Terrorgraph!
marinermick said:Slightly misleading. The NRL and Union get their fair share of infrastructure as well - new grounds in Canberra and Western Sydney and huge upgrades of Newcastle, Perth and Townsville.
Maybe .. but Canberra has no head lease right now and part of the deal with the ACT gov is a A-League team will play out of Canberra and be backed and funded by the ACT gov .. meaning I guess that the A-League would control the ground
Newcastle i am lead to believe will require a new leasing structure which should provide the Scum with a very much improved deal than they currently enjoy
also North Qld will get and much more favorable lease than they currently have.
RU gets stuff all ...
curious said:
Maybe .. but Canberra has no head lease right now and part of the deal with the ACT gov is a A-League team will play out of Canberra and be backed and funded by the ACT gov .. meaning I guess that the A-League would control the ground
And why do you guess that? The ground will be a shared ground by 3 codes and managed by the owners of the management rights (the entity that pay the millions to buy them) Good God man, Canberra aren't even in the aleague, we don't know when or if, and you have them 'controlling' a brand new stadium already?
Newcastle i am lead to believe will require a new leasing structure which should provide the Scum with a very much improved deal than they currently enjoy
They get cheap as chips rental as it is and he hasn't been permitted a lease of any description for years, nor will he ever be by anyone. He gets what anyone gets that have a habit of not paying their debts, including rent, and cannot be trusted with credit. A week by week rental. It's irrelevant however, with the new stadium being finished in 12 months, regardless of a WC.
also North Qld will get and much more favorable lease than they currently have.
Why would they, and have you any idea of their existing agreement? Cowboys will benefit very well indeed from a new stadium and likely much more than NQF (if they still exist) unless their crowds triple to that of the Cowboys.
RU gets stuff all ...
Brumbies get to use any new stadium they choose in Canberra. Waratahs will use SFS or ANZ, or both and Reds will use Suncorp. The Wallabies will use the biggest and the best of all the stadiums, regardless of oval or rectangle, like they always have.
So, RU does rather well, actually.
RL won't be unhappy either with SFS, ANZ, Suncorp, Canberra and Townsville all to gain upgrades/redevelopments and all NRL home grounds.
with Melbourne having only a 31, 000 K stadium... thus no major internationals by either RU, or Football..this does protect AFL a lot...
curious said:with Melbourne having only a 31, 000 K stadium... thus no major internationals by either RU, or Football..this does protect AFL a lot...
Melbourne don't have major internationals in RU and As. football? They don't also have RL's biggest games, the SOO? I'd bet my left testicle that both the nrl and super15 teams in Melbourne are over the moon about gaining a new 31k home ground and don't give a shite about moving big games like semi's, GF's, tests ect. to Athiad or the MCG and I don't think they'll cry themselves asleep about the shape of the ground.
midfielder said:curious said:with Melbourne having only a 31, 000 K stadium... thus no major internationals by either RU, or Football..this does protect AFL a lot...
Melbourne don't have major internationals in RU and As. football? They don't also have RL's biggest games, the SOO? I'd bet my left testicle that both the nrl and super15 teams in Melbourne are over the moon about gaining a new 31k home ground and don't give a shite about moving big games like semi's, GF's, tests ect. to Athiad or the MCG and I don't think they'll cry themselves asleep about the shape of the ground.
OK we have a difference of opinion then about Melbourne ... A RU match against a top overseas side in Melbourne would draw a big crowd ... as would a top Socceroo match... Also RL is considering an annual six nations ... with Australia & NZ seeded in two groups against 4 island nations... RL is also starting to look at international matches as well...
With a 31, 000 K ground ... NSW & QLD Stadiums will more than likely get the top RU & Socceroo matches..... and that is IMO quite sad... and it is difficult to see any going to Perth or Adelaide which is even sadder...
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/englands-world-cup-bid-chairman-resigns-over-bribe-claims-20100517-v6wh.html
England's World Cup bid chairman resigns over bribe claims
May 17, 2010 - 9:41AM
England's World Cup bid chairman resigns over bribe claims
LONDON: England's campaign to host the 2018 World Cup suffered a major blow on Sunday when Lord David Triesman quit as head of the bid team following claims he had accused Spain and Russia of bribery.
Triesman, 66, also stepped down as president of the English Football Association after a hastily-arranged meeting with the FA board at Wembley.
The meeting was called in the wake of allegations made in the Mail on Sunday newspaper, which suggested Triesman told a former aide, Melissa Jacobs, that Spain could drop its 2018 bid if rival bidder Russia helped bribe referees at this summer's World Cup.
Jacobs revealed to the Mail on Sunday that Triesman - who on Saturday sat beside Prince William at the FA Cup final which Chelsea won 1-0 against Portsmouth - had confided in her his fears over the Spain/Russia partnership, a conversation that she tape recorded.
"There's some evidence that the Spanish football authorities are trying to identify the referees....and pay them," said Triesman.
Triesman then related to Jacobs - who had the conversation with him after she said she ended their relationship because she was uncomfortable having an affair with a married man, a relationship that Triesman denies - how he thought the bid was progressing in terms of votes.
"I think the Africans we are doing very well with. I think we're doing kind of well with some of the Asians.
"Probably doing well with Central and North America. My assumption is that the Latin Americans, although they have not said so, will vote for Spain. And if Spain drop out, because Spain are looking for help from the Russians to help bribe the referees in the World Cup, their votes may then switch to Russia."
Jacobs, a 37-year-old civil servant who was employed by 66-year-old Triesman when he was a Minister at the Department for Innovation, Univesities and Skills, then claims that she asked Triesman if Russia would help Spain in bribing referees.
"Oh, I think Russia will cut deals," replied Triesman, saying that Russia would do so because they had nothing to lose as their team failed to reach the finals.
The England 2018 World Cup bid team faxed letters of apology to the Spanish and Russian associations as they attempted to minimise the damage caused.
"I have decided to resign as chairman of the FA and the 2018 bid board," Triesman said in a statement.
"A private conversation with someone whom I thought to be a friend was taped without my knowledge and passed to a national newspaper. That same friend has also chosen to greatly exaggerate the extent of our friendship.
"In that conversation I commented on speculation circulating about conspiracies around the world. Those comments were never intended to be taken seriously as indeed is the case with many private conversations.
"The views expressed were not the views of the 2018 bid board or the FA.
"Nobody should be under any misapprehension that the FA or 2018 bid board are disrespectful of other nations or FIFA and I regret any such inference that may have been drawn from what has been reported.
"Entrapment, especially by a friend, is an unpleasant experience both for my family and me but it leaves me with no alternative but to resign. I have immediately informed the FA board of my decision."
FA board members David Sheepshanks and Roger Burden have been drafted in as acting joint chairmen of the FA, while Geoff Thompson was later on Sunday named as the new head of the World Cup bid.
Sunday's controversy comes just two days after Triesman, accompanied by David Beckham, handed over England's bid book for the 2018 World Cup to FIFA chief Sepp Blatter in Zurich.
England staged the World Cup for the first and only time in 1966, which was also the only occasion they had lifted the trophy.
The chief of Russia's bid, Aleksey Sorokin, has called for football's governing body to "take appropriate measures".
"It is a sign that we are going in the right direction, that the quality of our bid leaves no other alternative for our competitors but to bring up these absurd allegations," Sorokin told Sky Sports News.
When asked if they would take up the matter with FIFA, he added: "We haven't had that discussion, we hope that FIFA will take appropriate measures itself without our motions."
The FA bid enjoys support from the Premier League and Prime Minister David Cameron and new Sports Minister Hugh Robertson this morning welcomed reports that Triesman was to be stood down.
"It's entirely right that he should stand down and that the action should have been taken as quickly as is the case," he told Sky Sports News.
England, Russia, joint Spanish-Portuguese and Dutch-Belgian bids, Australia and the United States are the countries in contention for the World Cup in 2018.
link http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/m-to-build-ground-for-greater-western-sydney/story-e6frg7mf-1225867938889
THE division of NSW's AFL notional tribes will soon be complete, with the state government set to announce it will subsidise a redevelopment of the Sydney Showground, a move that will free the Swans from the code's commitment to the adjacent ANZ Stadium.
The Australian understands the AFL, the state government and the new Greater Western Sydney club will make an announcement next week.
Under the agreed terms, the government will put in an estimated $45 million to convert the showground into an AFL stadium for the GWS, which is due to enter the competition in 2012.
The showground is part of the Homebush Olympic precinct which also contains ANZ Stadium, but the two venues are run by separate bodies.
GWS and the AFL are reluctant to schedule anything but blockbuster matches at ANZ for fear the small crowds in an 81,000-seat venue will be bad publicity for the start-up club.
The new showground stadium will seat about 30,000 fans.
GWS will play nine matches at the showground and will take over the three matches the AFL is contractually obliged to play at ANZ Stadium as part of the arrangement that effectively divides Sydney in two.
The Swans have played three games a year at ANZ as part of the deal, but this has never sat well with its eastern suburbs members, and the matches have struggled to attract fans.
The showground is 26km to the east of the GWS practice facilities at Blacktown Olympic Park, but still 20km west of the Swans' home base at the SCG.
It is understood the AFL is keen to tap into Sydney's Hills District, which is closer to ANZ than Bankstown and contains a demographic identified by the code as a potential fan base.
The AFL convinced Blacktown council and the state government to invest $30m on the practice facility for the GWS, which has only a 10,000-seat stadium and is unsuitable for games.
GWS chief executive Dale Holmes has promised an announcement on a home ground before the end of the year. The AFL has dealt with three NSW premiers in trying to have the showground converted into a base for its western Sydney push.
The project appeared to suffer a terminal blow in November when then-premier Nathan Rees announced he was abandoning plans to inject money into the redevelopment.
"We're not about to give that sort of money to the AFL for a stadium next to an existing stadium," he said.
"I'd much rather spend the money on hospitals and schools."
Rees buckled after a campaign by the Daily Terrorgraph and rugby league fans against taxpayer money being spent on a "foreign" code.
The AFL has boasted it has a $200m war chest to support the GWS project, which is in rugby league heartland.
League bosses have rallied against any state government investment in a rival code.