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[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

What if Rowles got the ball and Tilio was late (this is in fact what happened). The first contact was actually a foul by Tilio on Rowles and he was falling from that. Does that affect the decision. (I'm still not convinced the second one occurred in the box either). What should the decision be then.

I haven't seen it yet - but yes, it certainly can affect it. The ref needs to decide if the 2nd contact is a foul in its own right.

I've had times where the player was already off balance but the 2nd contact was clearly a foul, clearly careless with a bit of force, so awarded a pen.

I've had times when the player was off balance and a tiny bit of contact knocked them over....in that instance, I went back to the first one.

I haven't seen the incident yet, because Paramount Minus are a blight on the game.

 

[Ironbark]

What if Rowles got the ball and Tilio was late (this is in fact what happened). The first contact was actually a foul by Tilio on Rowles and he was falling from that. Does that affect the decision. (I'm still not convinced the second one occurred in the box either). What should the decision be then.

See this is the rub - there was no second contact at all. That was just that moron commentator trying to rationalise what happened.
Rowles made first contact outside of the box and it continued into the box in one flowing motion. It's cut and dried.

 

[LFCMariners]

So, I missed the game.

I would LOVE to be able to watch the key elements.

Too bad our broadcaster is the worst sports streamer in the history of sports streaming, ever - and the incompetent AL permitted it to happen.

If you didn't know any better, you'd swear the clowns overseeing what's happening on/ off the field (garbage officiating on a weekly basis that favours a handful of sides, rubbish new website where trying to find simple info/ video is a navigational nightmare, new broadcaster who've been amateur hour to say the least, admitting new teams that nobody gives a shit about with SFA crowds etc. etc. etc.) are shadow employees of the AFL and have orchestrated this to implode the A-League....

 

[BrisRecky]

One last thought on Shaun f**king Evans …he DIDNT call a penalty on the Miller tackle cause that would give Leckie a second yellow and that meant he got a red AND YA CANT GIVE A SOCCEROO A f**kING RED CARD , YOU DEMENTED CORRUPT c**t …go get another job you festering shitsack

 

[Forum Phoenix]

I keep thinking over those decisions and I really can't see how it's not corruption. These were clear decisions that drew absolute and unanimous agreement as to which way they should have been called.
Evans worked as hard as he could to find a way to justify the opposite.

At a minimum as a crowd we need to be yelling CHEATER at Evans all game if he's ever at Gosford.

This can't be let go. Noise must be made. We need to pepper the powers that be with demands and questions. Squeaky wheel gets the grease. I'm going large. If it's let go it'll just happen again.

I think banners and visible protests are required at next home game at minimum.

 

[turbo]

I’m a tiny bit optimistic that this situation might drive some change. The league is suffering heavily in interest and ratings, there’s already noise about VAR from recent interactions and delays and the outrage from this decision is pretty much universal. Even the commentators and panel got stuck in to them. Maybe they won’t be able to ignore this mistake.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

See this is the rub - there was no second contact at all. That was just that moron commentator trying to rationalise what happened.
Rowles made first contact outside of the box and it continued into the box in one flowing motion. It's cut and dried.

I have literally never seen any other kind of ruling in watching tens and thousands of games. Has anyone else?

The players are absolutely gutted, and "embarrassed for the fans". "Only here in Australia do they use the VAR to help them make the wrong decisions" End quotes.

I'd walk if it wouldn't just hurt the team and club more.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

I’m a tiny bit optimistic that this situation might drive some change. The league is suffering heavily in interest and ratings, there’s already noise about VAR from recent interactions and delays and the outrage from this decision is pretty much universal. Even the commentators and panel got stuck in to them. Maybe they won’t be able to ignore this mistake.

I think the discontent may have reached a tipping point too. But I honestly have no trust our referees have enough integrity or ability to properly over haul this. But who among the owners group would truly be motivated to drive change in referees who continually err on the side of the bigger clubs.

Depressing.

Thinking about it, about the only thing I'd trust and who could likely have the acumen to do the job properly, is an ex players panel. Everything at arms length. Only those vested with a love of the game. No financial interests or alliances etc...

 

[Wombat]

Honestly mate I'm going through a really difficult busy work time at the moment, i have very little time to myself and getting cheated like this really hurts. I've only got a few hours a week free for relaxation and I'm spending it on watching the team. Getting f**ked like this when you're tight for free time really makes you question where you're spending it. I love the club and the team, no point though if it's not fair. This is nothing to do with the club, it's the organization running the league and the officials. There no way that was not cheating from someone. Best case it's the ref on his own, worst case is match fixing or league win fixing. Any of those scenarios makes it a waste of time to watch. I'm so upset, maybe I'll feel better tomorrow but right now...i don't know. I've given up on shit before when I've found out there was cheating, it makes it pointless.

I need a hug emoji

 

[Wombat]

I keep thinking over those decisions and I really can't see how it's not corruption. These were clear decisions that drew absolute and unanimous agreement as to which way they should have been called.
Evans worked as hard as he could to find a way to justify the opposite.

At a minimum as a crowd we need to be yelling CHEATER at Evans all game if he's ever at Gosford.

This can't be let go. Noise must be made. We need to pepper the powers that be with demands and questions. Squeaky wheel gets the grease. I'm going large. If it's let go it'll just happen again.

100% with you Mr Bark

 

[Wombat]

I haven't seen it yet - but yes, it certainly can affect it. The ref needs to decide if the 2nd contact is a foul in its own right.

I've had times where the player was already off balance but the 2nd contact was clearly a foul, clearly careless with a bit of force, so awarded a pen.

I've had times when the player was off balance and a tiny bit of contact knocked them over....in that instance, I went back to the first one.

I haven't seen the incident yet, because Paramount Minus are a blight on the game.

And that response (and i'm a big fan of Capt) is the problem. Refs have now become politicians. See what they want to and defend what they need too. Oblivious to reality.

 

[Wombat]

I have literally never seen any other kind of ruling in watching tens and thousands of games. Has anyone else?

The players are absolutely gutted, and "embarrassed for the fans". "Only here in Australia do they use the VAR to help them make the wrong decisions" End quotes.

I'd walk if it wouldn't just hurt the team and club more.

That commentator was horrendous...who was he?

 

[Wombat]

If you didn't know any better, you'd swear the clowns overseeing what's happening on/ off the field (garbage officiating on a weekly basis that favours a handful of sides, rubbish new website where trying to find simple info/ video is a navigational nightmare, new broadcaster who've been amateur hour to say the least, admitting new teams that nobody gives a shit about with SFA crowds etc. etc. etc.) are shadow employees of the AFL and have orchestrated this to implode the A-League....

Thats a stretch. They are simply corrupt from the top down.

 

[Coastalraider]

I can’t call it corruption or match fixing, purely due to the phenomenal amount of time it took Evans to make a call on both occasions. If it was match fixing there is no way in the world he draws so much attention to it by taking 5 minutes to review.

But what that leaves is a staggering amount of incompetence driven by confirmation bias. In both situations he made a real time decision in favour of city, on both occasions CGJ called him over to the line because he had seen enough to stop play, and on both occasions Evans took a huge amount of time to essentially convince himself he was right in the first place. There seemed to be no objectivity on the process.

 

[true believer]

Wish Simmo was fit, need a talisman

it would certainly help with long ball

 

[Michael]

That commentator was horrendous...who was he?

ben homer, from newcaste, commentates all the Newcastle NPL games.

 

[Michael]

100 percent. There was some real improvement imho. But no doubt NIz was at the heart of it. Goal scoring aside, he's a better player than Olly and he was the key. Please god keep him there Monty.

And LUKE, I'm on the Beni train brother. Screw you haters. Loved his post match interview. Lovely young guy, deeply committed to the team and he had a stellar game for us tonight.

beni did play well. Best he’s played over a whole match in our jersey. His goal was very very good.

 

[Ads]

The 2x A-League Facebook posts from last night have 360 and 480 comments respectively.

A normal game this year between any team usually has 10 to 20 comments on the A-League page.

For now in this moment they probably think it’s great bringing publicity and controversy.
They probably think more people will want to watch the “drama”! Haha

I’m a tiny bit optimistic that this situation might drive some change. The league is suffering heavily in interest and ratings, there’s already noise about VAR from recent interactions and delays and the outrage from this decision is pretty much universal. Even the commentators and panel got stuck in to them. Maybe they won’t be able to ignore this mistake.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Evans is either woefully inept or corrupt.
It's one or the other.
My personal view is he is just a bad ref.
Hope he is stood down permanently

 

[Ancient Mariner]

I stopped posting last night, and decided to wait until I could post something well thought out, unemotional and rational in the cold light of day. Here is the result.

We are being continually screwed over by a bunch of incompetent, cheating, corrupt bastards in a league that is the most incompetent in the world, that every time it renews itself it gets worse and gets broadcast to the world?by a broadcaster that appears to use mobile phones for cameras.

f**k the lot of them.