2020/21 Season

[Huddo]

Think we need 3 to be safe and 4 for top 4

Maybe you're right, but if that is the case in a 24 game comp, records will be smashed.

 

[Huddo]

It would basically mean in a 27 game league around 41-42 would be needed to be safe comparatively. That's crazy numbers.

 

[Big Al]

Maybe you're right, but if that is the case in a 24 game comp, records will be smashed.

Just being conservative and more from the point of view that we don’t want to be in a race for 6th needing a win in the last game or two

and we have seen lots of teams go on runs. We don’t want Roar and WU pushing up

 

[FFC Mariner]

Think we need 3 to be safe and 4 for top 4

Imagine being confident about this statement pre season. Wow

 

[shipwreck]

I'm only just realising that we play some teams 3 times and others only twice, ftom what I can see we have to play Melbourne City, Macarthur and WU an extra time while other teams get to play the cellar dwellars a third time and potentially pick up easy points.

That kinda sucks... How did they come up with this ?

 

[Huddo]

I'm only just realising that we play some teams 3 times and others only twice, ftom what I can see we have to play Melbourne City, Macarthur and WU an extra time while other teams get to play the cellar dwellars a third time and potentially pick up easy points.

That kinda sucks... How did they come up with this ?

Melbourne City have be gifted a dream run (and possibly the plate with their third games)

 

[shipwreck]

Yeh that's my point, how can you give ladder position incentives such as grand final qualification and even a premiership based on an unfair draw? Like that's the definition of unfair, not all member having the same opportunity... Madness

 

[bikinigirl]

I'm only just realising that we play some teams 3 times and others only twice, ftom what I can see we have to play Melbourne City, Macarthur and WU an extra time while other teams get to play the cellar dwellars a third time and potentially pick up easy points.

That kinda sucks... How did they come up with this ?

. does that mean that you didn't realise last season either ... or didn't care - because it really had no impact on us?

. until last week i had been wondering whether there had been any teams already play three times and whether the draw may have been cut back to 22 rounds considering the congestion and the upcoming internationals

 

[shipwreck]

. does that mean that you didn't realise last season either ... or didn't care - because it really had no impact on us?

. until last week i had been wondering whether there had been any teams already play three times and whether the draw may have been cut back to 22 rounds considering the congestion and the upcoming internationals

I noticed last season but tbh thought it was a consequence of having an odd number of teams, I thought Macarthur in it would be a level comp now with no byes or stacked fixtures

 

[BrisRecky]

Isn’t the draw weird due to the pandemic ?....the HAL could probably have sorted that by having a bubble and getting Glory , Bris and both Melbs to move to NSW ....just like the Welligong fire chickens and the paddock wrestlers did

 

[pjennings]

Aussie based Olyroos won't be picked for the camp/games from 31 May - 15th June. Means that our only problems may be Stensness with NZ or any Socceroos call ups from mid May

 

[Huddo]

Aussie based Olyroos won't be picked for the camp/games from 31 May - 15th June. Means that our only problems may be Stensness with NZ or any Socceroos call ups from mid May

I think we should be praying for Wellington to make finals

 

[Pirate Pete]

Isn’t the draw weird due to the pandemic ?....the HAL could probably have sorted that by having a bubble and getting Glory , Bris and both Melbs to move to NSW ....just like the Welligong fire chickens and the paddock wrestlers did

No it's always lop sided I think.
There's always discussion about it.
Usually about if we play fc,wanderers, jets twice at home or not

 

[Ironbark]

A few years ago there were 10 teams and 27 games - that's playing the other 9 teams 3 times each.
Whether it was two home games and one away or two away games and one at home against any given team varied season to season.

Adding a team lopsided the draw for a season, and then covid lopsided the next even though we got back to an even number of teams (12 team comp could mean playing 11 other teams 3 times, 33 game season)

 

[Huddo]

Just being conservative and more from the point of view that we don’t want to be in a race for 6th needing a win in the last game or two

and we have seen lots of teams go on runs. We don’t want Roar and WU pushing up

We now may not have the choice.

 

[Ironbark]

Ultimately - and this is the main thing for me - regardless of what happens next we have our credibility back.
After 4 spoons in 5 years if we simply had a mid-table/mediocre season people still would have said we were a sh*t team who just didn't go so badly this year.
Now our reputation is repaired and we are seen as a force to be respected.
I take that as a massive success whatever comes next.

That said - most seasons that we have done well in we have had a 5-10 game run where we dipped in form and results and then came back strong to get over the line. I think we will do this again and probably be top 4.
If not I will happily take a top 6 position and finals (which we can give a real shake regardless) and the credibility of a team capable of pushing for silverware.

 

[LFCMariners]

Ultimately - and this is the main thing for me - regardless of what happens next we have our credibility back.
After 4 spoons in 5 years if we simply had a mid-table/mediocre season people still would have said we were a sh*t team who just didn't go so badly this year.
Now we have our reputation is repaired and we are seen as a force to be respected. I take that as a massive success whatever comes next.

That said - most seasons that we have done well in we have had a 5-10 game run where we dipped in form and results and then came back strong to get over the line. I think we will do this again and probably be top 4.
If not I will happily take a top 6 position and finals (which we can give a real shake regardless) and the credibility of a team capable of pushing for silverware.

They were a better squad (with probably a better manager) than what we have, but this is exactly what happened to Ange's Roar in 2011/12 mid-season, costing them the league (CCM claimed it) but they went on to win the toilet seat.

Similar thing happened the following season to CCM IIRC, including the 0-1 loss to WSW that turned the league in their favour before we turned it back around and beat them in the GF.

Problem atm doesn't seem to be with the players available or with their attitude- both notably better than they have been for 5 years. Biggest problem is with how they've been utilised and this can be fixed provided Staj is seeing what we've been seeing and isn't too stubborn.

Right now the aim should be to scout the lower leagues for players who can take over from Kuol when he leaves at seasons' end. Look at their stats and keep an eye on the intangibles like their effort, because that's why Kuol has been so valuable this season. It's those 1% things he does where he gets that tiny advantage and creates goals from them.

 

[FFC Mariner]

How do we think Murray would go in a better team with a better coach?
Pace to burn, great work rate but had to play in front of rubbish
When we gave him some service he was fine

 

[Big Al]

How do we think Murray would go in a better team with a better coach?
Pace to burn, great work rate but had to play in front of rubbish
When we gave him some service he was fine

I was expecting to see him announced as soon as Indian PL finished and was surprised he hasn’t comeback

 

[Wombat]

How do we think Murray would go in a better team with a better coach?
Pace to burn, great work rate but had to play in front of rubbish
When we gave him some service he was fine

He was a mug.