Capn Gus Bloodbeard
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well, after the blatant coathanger yesterday, it's nice to see that neither the refereeing nor VAR has improved.
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2020/21 Other A-League Games
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Yeah but the Retre one was correct. After our game all Ref's seem to have lost a lot of confidence and I feel the VAR will be useless as they seem very cautious however the coathanger was disgraceful and Milligan looking old and frustrated this year.
Capn Gus Bloodbeard
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Yeah, true.
I think the introduction of VAR in general has prevented referees from actually refereeing the damn game.
Look at Retre - even if VAR actually operated correctly (which it isn't here), imagine if that one wasn't given as a red - while I think red was correct, if it was given as a yellow you wouldn't have been surprised so I don't think a VAR would have overturned it as 'clear and obvious' - which is why it's so important for referees to get it right on-field.
Go back to the coathanger - and let's remember that by the laws, off-the-ball contact to the head/neck is a MANDATORY red - so I'd say this non-decision is even worse than anything that happened in our game.
I look at this as an ex-ref assessor - how would you expect this to be dealt with live?
1) While it wasn't in the view the ref focusses on (just because something happens in your field of view, it doesn't mean you've spotted it clearly), I would have thought King would have had a good enough view of this. IMO he was out of position a bit here - chasing this attack he should have veered left rather than run down the centre, but I find that there are a lot of bad positioning habits at this level that cause a lot of problems and lot of missed decisions
2) Near AR - focusing so hard on monitoring the offside line, may have seen it, may have just had a vague awareness of something happening in the corner of their eye.
3) Far AR has the job of constantly scanning the field - they need to glance away to their offside line, but they are also checking the whole field.
4) 4th official - also has the job of constantly scanning the field when they're not managing the benches. They can absolutely raise serious offences to the ref.
On-field, even without wireless comms, refs and ARs use glances at each other to get an indication of whether they're asking for help - you can tell a lot about whether an official has seen an incident and may be asking if you're seen it just from how they glance across the field at you.
With comms, this isn't even necessary - but it just looks to me like the teamwork is nonexistent with VAR. the VAR seems to have removed the responsibility of the other officials to be supporting the referee with stuff like this, which I don't believe was ever supposed to occur.
It means that we have gone from 4 officials having responsibility over an incident, to 2, when VAR should really have meant 5 officials are sharing responsibility.
As much as I don’t mind piling on the snake McGowan has been far worse. Look at the goal when Baccus handed it over, he gets caught ball watching and that should be his man.
Melange
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For his heart, effort and enthusiasm I was glad to keep Ziggy, for his skills he was ok at A-league level.
It was his comments after he left that annoyed me.
While not looking to really pile on, as much as anything I found it surprising an opposition coach called out an individual in that way.
Didn’t have the sound on but that’s very unusual but massively true.
marinermick
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Yep, double header. Great idea.
My nephew played for Manly beforehand. Said it was a great atmosphere for a NPL game.
sydmariner
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marinermick
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Manly totally dominated that game and Wollongong jagged the draw at the end
Insertnamehere
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sydmariner
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Methcarthur away on a Thursday night and a home derby on a Tuesday ffsNews
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FFC Mariner
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Midweek football in the dark and cold? Hook it to my veins
Insertnamehere
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How very north england of you
FFC Mariner
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Well I've been to Watford if that counts?
The match review committee was looking at it, I don’t recall seeing an outcome yet.
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