Stuartmcateer
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He is.
But had Alfie and edmo dominated and Sainsbury played all year like he did on Sunday, then it wouldn't have been the complete write off it was.
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But had Alfie and edmo dominated and Sainsbury played all year like he did on Sunday, then it wouldn't have been the complete write off it was.
Spacks
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Stuartmcateer
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What's that show?
Putting up match ratings from a known soft scoring platform doesn't show anything.
He has 1 goal and 1 assist in 20 games. Less goal contributions that Nathan Paull.
Are you really trying to argue that he has dominated the a league this year?
Spacks
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show me another platform that doesnt show good ratings for mcalmont in the 1st half of the season then
FFC Mariner
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His Fotmob stats are awful
Spacks
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He's 2nd this season. Sure, we're shit this season but an avg rating of 6.98 isn't 'awful'.
Stuartmcateer
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He is second this season for us.
He's 2nd this season. Sure, we're shit this season but an avg rating of 6.98 isn't 'awful'.
He has the same futmob rating as Callum Timmins ffs.
Try this one by comparison with other midfielders across the league.
Spacks
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Sorry which one am I meant to be filtering for? Defensive actions, Touches? Chances Created? I dont know which one you mean.
FFC Mariner
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Sorry if already posted, Sains has confirmed it's a snapped Achilles.
Career gone?
Career gone?
Spacks
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FFC Mariner
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Hope Jakolis feels at least some guilt for how he carried on
Stuartmcateer
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Compare him with any number of centre mids - Caceras, Brattan, mauk, verstraete, thurgate, alagich, O'Shea, machach, hollman
Here's Leo Sena's, so Alfie is better at aeriel duels, shot attempts, goals, shots at goals and defensive actions?
Not just on futmob but actually the impact they have on games.
All rate higher than Alfie - as they should.
Do you honestly think kuol and Steele have been almost 7's on average? Or mauragis? Or Theo? So obviously the ratings they give are pretty soft. Even doka at 7.26 is a stretch.
He's definitely no temu Ronnie, he is our best current midfielder and I think he could do well in a decent side. But for a visa player he has been disappointing in a disappointing side.
Spacks
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Comparing Apples to Oranges isn't a good comparison to make
Can you say Alfie's defensive actions didn't stop a potential goal?
Yes. Give me a reason as to why they shouldn't be. https://www.fotmob.com/faq lists how the come to their conclusions as to how people get given ratings.
For example:
Fotmob Ratings
The FotMob player rating is calculated based on more than 300 individual stats per player per match from Opta. A match in the per match ratings is any match the participant has been involved in even if he came on as substitute in the last few minutes. A player must have played at least 50% of all matches and at least 90 minutes (for the per 90 stats) to be included in the rankings.
Defensive actions
A sum of tackles, interceptions, clearances, blocks and fouls to indicate how much a player is involved defensively.
So you agree he's our best midfielder, I agree.
Stuartmcateer
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They are literally all central midfielders. How is it apples and oranges? It's not like I compared a striker with a defender.
By that logic every defensive action stops a potential goal. every time kaltak played a shit pass to an opponent that interception stopped a potential goal. Every header from a long goal kick stops a potential goal. Kuol blocking a long clearance by a defender stops a potential goal.
You can count just about everything. Counting a single event doesn't tell the whole picture. Winning a header on halfway counts the same as winning a header in the box to deny a goal - both are winning duel but they aren't equal. A tackle on the sideline on halfway isn't the same as a covering tackle in the box to stop a striker shooting - but they both count as a tackle for the stats.
I'm sure Steele and Alfie have a high % for passing completion. The fact that the platform doesn't distinguish that it was backwards or sideways means that they are not as effective as the algorithm makes out.
Clearances are part of defensive actions. In reality a player could stand there like a witches hat with the ball pinging around while other players attempt tackles or blocks and when the ball fortuitously falls to them they kick it over the sideline. Count 1 for defensive actions but they haven't been effective in play, just got a lucky outcome.
Our best midfielder. It's a pretty low bar. But to suggest he has been a great signing is not true. He has been steady but well below what should be expected of a visa player. He doesn't get near other midfielders across the league in terms of contribution.
Its important to watch football with your eyes, not just stats and counting certain events. Lukaku has more international goals than both Maradona and Ronaldo (original). Using a stat based model that makes him better than both of them - obviously that's just ridiculous.
Simmo rightly ripped him a new one post-game the flog
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