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Trent Sainsbury talks to Simon Hill about his Socceroos omission

midfielder

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Found this quite refreshing and honest by Trent .... wonders aloud what it say about Holger...

http://www.foxsports.com.au/footbal...on/story-e6frf4gl-1226721153852#ixzz2fDDOnLCw

IT was one of the more mystifying stories of the off-season.

Trent Sainsbury, one of the most consistent performers in the Hyundai A-League with Central Coast Mariners, was selected for the Socceroos squad for the East Asian Cup - but came home as the only outfield player not given any meaningful action by coach, Holger Osieck.

There were murmurs that Sainbury was lacking in fitness, or perhaps had his head in other places due to the transfer rumours, linking him with moves to England and Switzerland. But Sainsbury says the problems may have been partly of his own making.

"It's total rubbish about my fitness - I was training with the rest of the boys. I thought I was going to get some game time, but I don't want to come away bitter from it, because it was a great experience to see what that level was like, and I'm happy I had the chance to be with the team," said Sainsbury.

"To be honest, I didn't get any feedback from Holger at all, but Viddy (assistant Aurelio Vidmar) did say my attitude was a problem - that it looked like I didn't want to be there. But, I've had that from every coach I've ever worked under to be honest.

"Kenny Lowe over in Perth was the first one to point it out to me - he said I looked so relaxed, that any more and I'd be dead. He thought that coaches were going to find that difficult unless they knew me really well. It's something I need to work on."

Sainsbury hasn't spoken to Osieck since the tournament, but says he wants to set the record straight with the German.

"No, I haven't had the chance to yet, he's been a busy man - but definitely in the future I would like to." said Sainsbury.

In the meantime, Sainsbury is preparing for his fourth campaign with the A-League champions - but for a long time, it looked like he would be heading overseas, with Bolton Wanderers leading the chase for his services, along with Southampton and FC Basel.

"They were looking at me as a right-back over there (at Bolton), and I wasn't too sure I wanted to play that position and try to start again in that role. I did agree personal terms with Basel after a trial, but one of their centre-backs, who was due to move on, ended up staying, so they said there was no point in me being just a back-up.

"Southampton was just media spin - I know they sent someone out to look at me, but when they stayed up in the Premier League, they were looking at bigger money signings."

While Sainsbury admits he still harbours a desire to move to Europe, for the moment he's fully focussed on retaining the Championship with the Mariners.

With Mat Ryan and Pedj Bojic no longer at the club, and Patrick Zwaanswijk having retired, it'll be a much-changed Mariners defensive unit, with Sainsbury forging a new partnership with Marcel Seip. Seip, like Zwaanswijk, is a Dutchman - but Sainsbury says that's where the similarities end.

"Patrick was one of a kind, and Marcel doesn't have the passing range of Swanny, but he makes up for it with his defensive capabilities. In particular, he's a very hard tackler. We're slowly getting to know each other - he's a true professional," said Sainsbury.

After an off-season full of disappointments at club and international level, Sainsbury says he can't wait to get back into action against the Wanderers on opening night, and he's already set his seasonal goals.

"I'd definitely like to play for my country, and I'd like for us, as a team, to keep 15 clean sheets this season." said Sainsbury.

If they manage to reach that target, the Mariners will be well in contention to retain their crown - and perhaps then, the next off-season may be a bit kinder to Trent Sainsbury.
 

bikinigirl

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. speaking to trent he always seems very relaxed ... so i'm not surprised he appears that way during training. while this quality may seem a little odd to holger i would argue it is a good quality for your CB - trent's performances last year show that it works

. what i don't understand is why this wasn't clear from discussions between arnie and holger ... do they not talk? especially when arnie is responsible for getting these young guys noticed for the NT

. btw, dukie comes across differently which may explain his success with holger
 

Roy Law

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Certainly Duke seized the opportunity but lets not forget he has had his disappointment too when Bernie was promoted to the Mariners first team and Duke had to go through another season in the NYL; perhaps that has motivated him since?
As for our laidback Trent, the most obvious thing is that he was selected on merit as one of the best defenders in the A League, including a superb performance in the Grand Final, so on merit he should have been played. Holger would learn nothing by playing of the likes of Thwaite and North; the purpose of the tournament was to find new talent for the Socceroos - he should have tried Trent.
The fact that Holger hasn't spoken to him speak volumes; arrogant, ignorant and out of touch. Many years ago I was the MD of a company employing more than a hundred people and I made sure I spoke to all of them on a regular basis; knowing your people is a vital part of management - and it is not as if Holger didn't have the time - in fact as I am writing this I think it appalling he did not have one to one conversations with every player. Sitting aloof, looking down, using minions to do the work for you is poor management.
I get the feeling Arnie has had his fill of the Socceroos and the like and will only assist when he has to so I doubt he has deep conversations with Holger and having seen the condition of Amini when he came back from rep duty I doubt he has time for Vidmar.
The net result is it is up to Trent Sainsbury to prove he is Australia's best A League defender, to lead the way in achieving the fifteen clean defensive sheets.
Trent has a future in Australian football, Holger does not.
 

McGrime

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I was willing to give Holger more time but to pick a guy for East Asia games then give him the cold shoulder was pathetic.
remember Trent would have played against Man U if he stayed in OZ.
The final straw was the Brasil debacle leavine a 41 year old goal keeper on for a full 6-0 rout ignoring two outstanding youngsters on the bench.
In a game that he was supposed to be blooding the young guys.........................Your a JOKE Holger.
 

FFC Mariner

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There were all sorts of mysterious tweets flying around that they had the shits with his attitude. Perception is very powerful.
If he was lazy and up himself, Arnie would have flicked him for sure and certain.
 

eenfish

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There were all sorts of mysterious tweets flying around that they had the shits with his attitude. Perception is very powerful.
If he was lazy and up himself, Arnie would have flicked him for sure and certain.

Totally agree. Duke has always come across as very out going and enthusiastic bloke, and I guess thats what got him noticed. But the fact that Osieck didn't even talk to Trent speaks zounds about the German. Fair go, a young bloke ought to be working his butt off harder than before to impress the coach of the national team, but if your goal is to bring in young blokes and don't even engage them then theres something funny brewin'.
 

eenfish

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If you were the national coach, wouldn't you talk to the coach of a young new player?

#Holgerout

Especially a young bloke who looks to be the best young defender in Australia at the moment, and when the blokes coach is a former Socceroos coach himself.
 

Lowlander

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I am in Germany once every couple of years, I always mention the war, they can handle a joke about it these days, however, the slightest mention of Mein Kampf and things turn sour pretty quickly
 

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