SBS -- Clip on Crowds

[midfielder]

SBS clip on football crowds... some good points i.e. ticket prices , marquee players, style, no FTA TV...... then they say NSL had fans with passion ... even hinted NSL: crowds where better...

http://player.sbs.com.au/twg#/twg_08/ALeague/A-LeagueNews/playlist/A-League-crowds/

 

[dibo]

If anyone still needs to be finally disabused of any notion that NSL crowds were by and large rubbish, they need to go and have a look at this site: http://www.ozfootball.net/ark/NSL/NSL.shtml

You can look season by season and see that it was the exception, rather than the rule, that crowds reached even this year's lowly reaches. By the way, the average crowd this season is *still* over 10k - 10,281. Take out the new teams and it's 11,168.

Woe betide us indeed.

 

[Jesus]

Surely at some stage SBS is going to cut the crap?

In no way was the nsl better at all.

Crowds were shit comparatively, and if the nsl had so many passionate fans, it would not have died out

 

[FFC Mariner]

SBS might just have an agenda here (or possibly 2 if you add in the race card they love to play)

 

[midfielder]

SBS might just have an agenda here (or possibly 2 if you add in the race card they love to play)

So it's not just me who thinks like that ...

I am not sure of the English word for this ... but the joy you feel at someone else's pain.. But after the next media deal when either 9 or 10 have the rights to football along with Fox ... SBS will become almost ... well .... powerless .. without or very reduced influence .... in many ways I see this as SBS's main grip ...that they are not given enough credit for the work they see they did in the bad times...

The pain they will feel as the football audience grows and they are no part of it ...

Having said all that I do accept without SBS football would not be where it is today... so the emotions are mixed because there are still some excellent football folk at SBS ... it's just that Mrs Football pulls the strings and his agenda poisons much of what comes out of SBS ... 

 

[FFC Mariner]

A highlights package on the ABC and/or coverage of the NYL to go with the W league would be a perfect start IMHO.

If SBS want the FTA rights, they might want to stop slagging hte product so much.

 

[midfielder]

FFC

Bozza said when the Terror where chasing Timmy Cahill ... the enemy within and we all kinda knew the people he was talking about ...

But Ray Gatt ... who works for the Terrograph and his brother in law is the infamous Lap****a of NSL / Marconi fame... Stewart Royal Commission... St George Bank on the Okon transfer ...travel agent for the Socceroos... the Royal commission said he could not be a director of any company .. and he is made head of the NSL ... ROFL...

So works for Terror ... brother in law ... one of the old NSL real heavy weights ... and he writes on crowds ... A-League sold out heartland in pursuit of World Cup .... http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26237691-16143,00.html

I think another old NSL boy who just cannot let go of the past ... while some grains of truth in his article laced with attacks worst than agenda driven NRL & AFL media...

 

[curious]

I see little wrong or incorrect in that article. It's also quite mild without unreasonable claims.
Unlike the ridiculous levels of paranoia parroted so often on football sites. I'm sure some of you guys would have your mothers shot on suspicion if they inadvertently smirked at football.

Honestly, the reds under the beds where cleaned out years ago guys. Now we have panicking poms in the pantry.

 

[Jesus]

A highlights package on the ABC and/or coverage of the NYL to go with the W league would be a perfect start IMHO.

If SBS want the FTA rights, they might want to stop slagging hte product so much.

Hopefully the FFA bundles the packages.

W-league will remain on abc id assume, unless one made a play.

If 10 or 9 made a play for football, they would probably show 1 or 2 games a week, max 3, 1 friday night/saturday night/sunday afternoon, and maybe a highlights package.

Leaving up to 5 games, maybe 6 at some stage of expansion a week.

Fox would likely bid for the leftovers, sbs could as well make a play for a game or 2.

Finals presumably would be on 10/9.

Socceroos games should be packaged seperately IMO, or have a bundle or socceroos qualifiers and 2 games a week from a-league. As well as Socceroos asian cup games.

FTA is essential to push the game to as many people as possible, and to get the maximum out of that it may mean allowing sbs to show some games, that 10/9 did not want, maybe just 1 a week, at a cheaper price to fox, just for more exposure.

I dont know if sbs will try for any games. But though some games can remain on fox, we need the added exposure of FTA, and the added exposure that give on all fta news stations, and papers.

 

[hasbeen]

From midfielder "I am not sure of the English word for this ... but the joy you feel at someone else's pain.."

The German word is schadenfreude ..

 

[midfielder]

From midfielder "I am not sure of the English word for this ... but the joy you feel at someone else's pain.."

The German word is schadenfreude ..

Thanks for that Hasbeen ... we can all be ........ schadenfreude ......... if the Scum get the spoon again...

 

[dibo]

i'm pretty sure schadenfreude is a noun. if there are any german speakers in the thread i'm sure they can correct me, but i think one is filled with schadenfreude rather than actually shadenfreuding.

 

[dibo]

Not starting a new thread for a brainfart, but this weekend's crowds (before the perth game) amount to the third worst round average in the HAL's history:

Season 2, Round 3: 5897
Season 5, Round 8: 6306
Season 5, Round 13: 6553

Well done GCU and Mariners for assisting the league with their glorious f**kups this weekend - it's brought great credit to the league.

 

[marinerbhoy]

Sad to see the crowds at the sfs still quite pathetic. I don't think there is any way back for them, people in Sydney just don't like the 'club'. Sydney Rovers can hopefully be the club that the city deserves.

 

[dibo]

i disagree with that entirely.

the whole league's a little on the nose at the moment, so sydney are as affected as anyone. if anything, the sydney media (john taylor and rebecca wilson, take a bow) have been more agressive than any others.

the thing is that the actual football is as good as it's ever been if not better. sydney's goals were well constructed and finished today and nobody could feel ripped off for watching them.

 

[dibo]

this weekend's crowds (before the perth game) amount to the third worst round average in the HAL's history:

Season 2, Round 3: 5897
Season 5, Round 8: 6306
Season 5, Round 13: 6553

turns out Perth's good turnout lifted us up to only be the fourth worst -

Season 2, Round 3: 5897
Season 5, Round 8: 6306
Season 5, Round 11: 6891
Season 5, Round 13: 7250

and kept the average over 10k per game. had the crowd been below 8566 the season average so far would have dropped below 10k for the first time since the start of the a-league.

 

[FFC Mariner]

i disagree with that entirely.

the whole league's a little on the nose at the moment, so sydney are as affected as anyone. if anything, the sydney media (john taylor and rebecca wilson, take a bow) have been more agressive than any others.

the thing is that the actual football is as good as it's ever been if not better. sydney's goals were well constructed and finished today and nobody could feel ripped off for watching them.

+1

Playing the Nux at 5pm on a Sunday following wall to wall negative publicity about crowds. (Thanks Clive you fat f**k)

How many do you think we would have got?

Remember for most of the population, the only football coverage they get is negative because they rely on Uncle Rupert and FTA.

 

[curious]

i disagree with that entirely.

the whole league's a little on the nose at the moment, so sydney are as affected as anyone. if anything, the sydney media (john taylor and rebecca wilson, take a bow) have been more agressive than any others.

the thing is that the actual football is as good as it's ever been if not better. sydney's goals were well constructed and finished today and nobody could feel ripped off for watching them.

For the only club in the countries largest city with a very large football following population to be gaining only 12k average crowds, the majority of Sydney's football supporters must also not give a shite about SFC, and football supporters don't give a shite what Wilson, Taylor, or anyone else's opinion might be. 

 

[dibo]

i disagree with that entirely.

the whole league's a little on the nose at the moment, so sydney are as affected as anyone. if anything, the sydney media (john taylor and rebecca wilson, take a bow) have been more agressive than any others.

the thing is that the actual football is as good as it's ever been if not better. sydney's goals were well constructed and finished today and nobody could feel ripped off for watching them.

For the only club in the countries largest city with a very large football following population to be gaining only 12k average crowds, the majority of Sydney's football supporters must also not give a shite about SFC, and football supporters don't give a shite what Wilson, Taylor, or anyone else's opinion might be.

the majority of most of the country doesn't give a shit. their exposure is, as FFC said, basically limited to whatever they get from uncle rupert and fta. they literally don't know what they're missing. in all seriousness, there's not that much difference between them and melbourne in the sense that neither gets the crowds one might expect their crowds to deliver when compared to small markets. there are other factors at play here in each case obviously, but while it may not be the massive number we want, i'm not sure there's anything in particular that SFC themselves are doing wrong.

 

[curious]

Agree with most of your comments.
My point being, the overwhelming majority of Sydney's existing football supporters, players ect, must not have enough Aleague interest to warrant attendance, and if gaining appreciable interest from that section of the public is proving difficult, interest from the general sporting public is going to be like pulling teeth.

I agree with your opinion re the league following now going into a settling period after the curiosity phase. Where it settles, I don't know.