Is Breeze corrupt or incompentant?

[Wombat]

What a crock of shit.

We were superb as was our support only to be robbed by an incompetant OR more likely corrupt official.

Season 3 we lose due to blatant incompetance by Shields (the worst official in the history of HAL).

Season 6 the GF goes to FFA's favourite lap dog ref....Breeze. Does the message go out...do what you can but just dont be too blatant but we want the Roar to win they derserve it and its a good look for Oz Football?

First half...Amini is blatantly fouled, doesn't get the whistle so retaliates and Breeze blows the other way. Incompetance or a portent of whats to come?

End of full time, Bernie is away and sure to score with no time for the Roar to come back. Breeze cannot get the whistle into his mouth fast enough!!.

End of extra time and seconds to go. Bojic (i think it was) is blatantly fouled and the cheat waves play on. McBreen panicks (has been excellent up to that) and hits the ball out for a corner instead of a throw in.

The rest is history and Breeze collects a nice brown paper bag bonus and the FFA keep cheering.

Dirty cheating c**ts!

 

[midfielder]

+999999999999999999999 (etc)

 

[tsd]

neither, as devastated as i am it was fair refing, after all we got a goal from offside

 

[pjennings]

neither, as devastated as i am it was fair refing, after all we got a goal from offside

If that was the case he is incompetent. However, in his defence, Kwas was onside.

The case for incompetence/corruption

1) Bernie 1-on-1
2) Brisbane first goal
a) Free kick after Rose got the ball and was thru on goal after Franjic got tangled up should have been no foul.
B) From there a long ball brought down by an offside player
c) with the upper arm leads to their goal
3) Their second goal came after a clear foul on Bojic.

Prosecution rests.

 

[Accustoms]

So 2-0 up with 4 to go where was the problem? It wasnt the ref. If you're upset blame the defence or the coach. It is Arnold after all.

 

[pjennings]

So 2-0 up with 4 to go where was the problem? It wasnt the ref. If you're upset blame the defence or the coach. It is Arnold after all.

So if you want to prove you can't read or undertsand you just did it.

 

[Roy Law]

I bet Breeze can spell...

 

[Roy Law]

Any way, just cop it; in a final like that there will be heaps of contentious decisions. We were 2-0 up - we should have won. End of.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

To say Breeze is corrupt is just moronically one-eyed. Through most of the game wr probably benefitted the most from his ineptness.

Roar should've gotten a penalty in regulation time as one of our players was brought down from a fair challenge, then hacked the roar player from behind. You can all whinge about the fouls we didn't get, but we also got away with a bit too (remember that hefty shoulder charge in the first half?). Let's get over the Amini decision - that was a pretty minor foul that was missed, and the ref isn't going to get them all right. That one was completely inconsequential - and if for whatever reason he missed the first foul, Amini forced him to make the decision on the first (was I the only one who had a little smile at seeing this normally placid young lad fire the fark up? )

Hutch with that studs up tackle to the back of the heel - I believe he was going for the ball (a dirty play like that isn't hutcho's style), but he should've been booked - and the ref could've easily given him a red. A few minutes later one of our other players probably should've been booked as well.

I'm not trying to deny that we got raped at the end (don't forget Theo coming off his line at the penalties), but to suggest that Breeze fixed the game is ridiculous.

If that was the case, do you REALLY think he's live it until 30 seconds to go to allow a foul to go unpunished and Roar to somehow slot the ball away?

No, if Breeze wanted BR to win the game, he would've put down that penalty agaisnt roar in the first half, and he would've sent Hutcho off - and there would've been more decisions go agaisnt us throughout the rest of the game.

If he wanted BR to win he would've made sure of it - and believe me, he could've done so in that game, rather than anticipate a miracle goal with 30 seconds to go to put it into penalties. Come on, use your brains people.

It always makes me laught when people whinge about the referees being biased - because 99% of the time the referee had ample opportunity to screw that team over if he really wanted (ie close calls in the penalty area), but didn't. This game was no different. Yes, we got raped in the end - but if he was corrupt he would've made sure of it before then. Yes, some decisions went against us earlier - but some went in our favour, and if he was corrupt he would've made sure they didn't. Without a doubt, we would've been 1 goal and 1 man down in regulation time if he was corrupt.

No, Breeze has always been useless. Nothing more.

Throughout the entire HAL he's been extremely proficient at getting the big decisions wrong - he's either way too quick with cards, or not enough. He seems to have so much uncertainty over his own game that he tends to overcompensate one way or the other, with the end result that he invariably gets the big calls wrong. This is something he's done for 6 seasons, and he's done that in manners that have both benefitted and harmed every single team.

He does have some strengths as a referee, but his unreliability on the big calls is his biggest weakness - and it's a critical one.

Personally, I still think he's better than that arrogant, gutless muppet with the ego of Tom Cruise - Mark Shield, but I was hoping somebody like Srebre Delovski was going to get the grand final. It's time to retire the old guard; they've simply never performed well in the HAL (but let's not just blame the referees - why are the coaches and inspectors letting them get away with it? I've met a FFA inspector who freely admits that most of the inspectors play favourites so their own state gets the glory of the top appointments. The referees are the ones with integrity - it's the ones controlling them that don't).

Let's not forget the assistants either - there were a lot of incorrect offside decisions, made by one in particular who was quite regularly out of position.

I was not happy when I saw Breeze take the field - I knew he wasn't able to handle a GF, and he proved that.

If that was the case he is incompetent. However, in his defence, Kwas was onside.

The case for incompetence/corruption

1) Bernie 1-on-1
2) Brisbane first goal
a) Free kick after Rose got the ball and was thru on goal after Franjic got tangled up should have been no foul.
B) From there a long ball brought down by an offside player
c) with the upper arm leads to their goal

Prosecution rests.

what ARE you talking about?

 

[ExiledMariner]

Great write up Capn. 100% accurate.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Cheers Exiled. Don't get me wrong, I'm as peeved as anybody else - but if Roar got that penalty in regulation time, then we probably wouldn't be having this debate anyway as it may not have gotten to extra time!

 

[pjennings]

Cheers Exiled. Don't get me wrong, I'm as peeved as anybody else - but if Roar got that penalty in regulation time, then we probably wouldn't be having this debate anyway as it may not have gotten to extra time!

Capn - Just re-reading my crap from last night. Sorry Scotch and typing when both pissed and pissed off shouldn't be allowed.

 

[ExiledMariner]

Capn - Just re-reading my crap from last night. Sorry Scotch and typing when both pissed and pissed off shouldn't be allowed.

Are you kidding? It should be encourged, makes for an intersting few minutes the next morning trying to decipher what you've written and also leads to a debate you can't remember getting into.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Lol, it makes for some of the most entertaining material on the forum.

Try being a referee, and posting half-drunk on the Australian referees forum when we get robbed by piss-poor officiating. That goes down a treat

(you'd be amazed how high up into the FFA heirarchy some things go......)

 

[style_cafe]

Yeah great write up Capn but you could have saved a bit of time by just saying he`s incompetent...lol

 

[bjw]

GET OVER IT FFS.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Yeah great write up Capn but you could have saved a bit of time by just saying he`s incompetent...lol

I'm a philosophy major - unnecessary words are what I do

 

[Forum Phoenix]

He has always been incompetent. Nothing changed. A PAINFUL, PAINFUL experience, but I would have been stunned if we got through without him butchering crucial game changing decisions tbh.

So conspiracy, no.

Though fwiw I do empathise that people can come to feel this way. Painful stuff, and we have had some horrible refereeing decisions decide many a crucial match for us. Personally I say forget the pros and cons of individual refs, this is more a discussion on the necessity of video replay etc.

I do however find some small solace that the ROAR who have clearly been this season "Champions" will now always be remembered as that. If we had won it, it would have been a little bit sullied, with "you just one game in 6 against" As if you were really the champions etc...

So lets win our first toilet seat next year with everyone saying that WE are the deserved CHAMPIONS!

 

[midfielder]

Aside from Breeze being a bad ref ... and that he made a number of critical errors in the match ...

To date I have not seen our media pick up on any of this... SBS so often the critic of the standard of play in the A-League ignore the obvious lack of quality in many of our refs..

Breeze should never again be picked for a major game... it’s no accident no Australia ref made it to the last WC... but a NZ ref did...

I was disappointed in last night wrap of the grand final that Breezes handing of the game was not even mentioned....

FFA need a kick up the place where the sun don’t shine for the appointment ... when a better ref was available...

I don’t believe he was appointed to make us loose and all that kinda stuff ... however I can say that appointing Breeze to me anyway shows how at FFA management level.... they are not tuned in or football savvy.. nor are our media doing us a good service by never putting some key decisions under the spot light...

 

[Roy Law]

Fox Sports have shown the late 'shoulder charge' by Visconte which flattened Bojic and lead to their crucial corner. Arnie had strong words to say about it.